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n=17, so read nothing into this result. Also, what they tested is having no fixed eating schedule. The effects (if any) of skipping breakfast every day consistently are not measured.
If it's clearly not worth HN readers' time, how did it get published in "The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition"? Or am I just naive in thinking published in a Journal still means something? Why did it pass peer review?
n=17, so read nothing into this result. Also, what they tested is having no fixed eating schedule. The effects (if any) of skipping breakfast every day consistently are not measured.
The only people I know who have beaten obesity long term have done it with some combination of IF/keto/paleo. Everybody else backslides.
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From what I have read in the past this is just how the funding tends to work. You write a grant proposal for a study with 20 people, get funding, get results, use that to get funding for another study with 200, then 2000, etc. Frequently they don’t manage to make it past the first couple levels because the results aren’t interesting.
Any study less than 200 people is essentially false advertising unless the population size is incredibly small (e.g., rare diseases) or the intervention has a crazy high prior (e.g., does getting shot in the chest lead to blood loss leading to passing out) so I consider these grants completely counter productive. There is a real benefit in having fewer pieces of junk to sort out and so many of these medical research…
> Meal skipping has become an increasing trend of the modern lifestyle that may lead to obesity I believe them that this is correct but does anyone know why? I thought all the "intermittent fasting" folks were losing weight?
With a smaller eating window (e.g. less than or equal to 8 hours in a day), there is a greater likelihood that less food will be consumed. This relies on CICO (ie. calorie consumption being less than TDEE). I read the linked abstract but there was no mention of number of calories consumed by the test subjects; I estimate that this would be the most critical factor with regard to weight loss.
As far as the claimed likelihood for type 2 diabetes, it seems to run counter to everything I've read about IF. When a person restricts their eating to a smaller window of time, their body's insulin resistance decreases, thereby lowering the likelihood of developing type 2 diabetes.
> Meal skipping has become an increasing trend of the modern lifestyle that may lead to obesity I believe them that this is correct but does anyone know why? I thought all the "intermittent fasting" folks were losing weight?
I work from home, we home school kiddo. That means they're not up and around until 11am or noon.
For me, I fall out of bed and jump on Zoom meetings, because I'm in a different time zone from most of my team. I don't get clear of meetings until around noon, when I can eat. My family's late schedule keeps me up late, hence falling out of bed and into Zoom.
Probably not the healthiest, and definitely not "intermittent fasting" with deliberation.
I have skipped breakfast since college when I was much more concerned about bulking up. I drink two coffees and that gets me through til lunch. I’ve never really considered alternatives to this routine. If I wanted to experiment with breakfasts what do people recommend eating? The priority would be energy levels, and mental clarity since I tend to work better in the morning.
- infusion: ginger + mint + lemon + green tea (or yerba mate)
- fruit: banana or dried fig
- seeds: slice of whole grain bread or almonds or any else you like, vary
- eggs with spices and herbs
- vegies with lot of fiber or veggies pasta
- minutes later: infusion: ginger + mint + lemon + green tea (or yerba mate)
- toast with eggs and lot of different spices and herbs, put anything you got
- infusion: what ever you want without caffeine, example: ayurvedic infusion
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No meat, no added sugar, no added salt, no transformed food, no fridge, just spices and herbs
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This is the problem with all weight loss and dieting studies and anecdotal evidence. Nothing is ever fixed or set in stone. Some people lose weight with lots of small meals. Some lose weight with one big meal. Some find low carb works, others eat carbs and lose weight. Human metabolism and body weight regulation is very complicated and doesn't readily yield to simple rules or heuristics (beyond CICO).
Even CICO is not straight forward. It is a dynamic system. Eating more can cause increased metabolism and easting less can slow the metabolism.
If you gain 20 pounds, then you need to eat more relative to your previous weight in order to maintain your current weight (including that extra 20 pounds). If you lose 20 pounds, you have to eat less to maintain that new weight.
n=17, so read nothing into this result. Also, what they tested is having no fixed eating schedule. The effects (if any) of skipping breakfast every day consistently are not measured.
i don't get why some studies have so few partipants. How hard is it to recruit people for something like this? We're not talking rare diseases.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/mp/sample-size-calculator/
If you are ok with a 25% margin of error and a 95% confidence level, 16 people is good enough. You have to make sure there isn’t some skew in your population, but if your method of sampling the population produces a skew, adding people won’t really help there.