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Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by yostrovs »

softfalcon wrote: post #79
voisin wrote: post #29

It would be nice to see more people allowed to keep backyard chickens (hens at least, since roosters can be noisy). Since getting some at our place I’ve been surprised how fun they are to have around and easy to care for. Our compost from the kitchen goes to them too, which could help people divert scraps from the landfill or from being picked up (big gas usage) for municipal composting. Their waste is also great fer…

You can lay eggs without a rooster, but if you do, one of the hens will become dominant and needlessly bully the other hens. This will stress them out and you’ll get health issues in your hens. Source: I come from a farming family.

Sometimes a hen will actually transition into a rooster, with spurs, rooster coloration of the feathers, humping of other hen, calling other hens when a treat is found, etc.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by jacobmartin »

snapcaster wrote: post #142
skeeter2020 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the fact that Johnson died at 64 of a heart attack somewhat ironic, or was he speaking from personal experience about the dangers of eggs (and the bacon everyone ate daily)?

I think the dietary cholesterol == bad thing is just totally wrong. Sample size of 1 but i eat about 4 eggs a day and steak almost every day but it's not processed fast food and my cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. are all _excellent_

Here is a less anecdotal source to support what you are saying: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024687/

There is about 10x more unesterified (absorbable) cholesterol secreted into bile than one typically eats in a normal day.

> Eating cholesterol has very little impact on the cholesterol levels in your body. This is a fact, not my opinion. Anyone who tells you different is, at best, ignorant of this topic. At worst, they are a deliberate charlatan. Years ago the Canadian Guidelines removed the limitation of dietary cholesterol. The rest of the world, especially the United States, needs to catch up.

https://peterattiamd.com/the-straight-dope-on-cholesterol-pa...

The only caveat I would is that there is weak evidence for a "dietary cholesterol hyperresponder" phenotype that is more sensitive to dietary cholesterol than the general population.

I probably have (heterozygous) familial hypercholesterolemia, so my diet (even saturated fat) unfortunately doesn't influence the (very high) levels I have anyways. I'm envious of people like you, for sure.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by BobbyJo »

sph wrote: post #158
snapcaster wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the dietary cholesterol == bad thing is just totally wrong. Sample size of 1 but i eat about 4 eggs a day and steak almost every day but it's not processed fast food and my cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. are all _excellent_

Yes and no. Cholesterol by itself ain't bad, in fact it is necessary to synthesize sex hormones and vitamin D, among other things. High sugar in blood is bad. High sugar and high fat in the bloodstream is worse. Also, recent studies seem to show that cholesterol limits are arbitrary and don't mean much in a vacuum: there seem to be a correlation between high LDL levels and longevity—i.e. people that live longer tend…

ApoB levels are the most predictive of cardiovascular disease, which represents the number of atherogenic particles in your blood. You may have high LDL, but a low particle count, and therefore be fine. Sugar and metabolic disease causes your body to produce larger numbers of smaller and less effective particles.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by scythe »

snapcaster wrote: post #142
skeeter2020 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the fact that Johnson died at 64 of a heart attack somewhat ironic, or was he speaking from personal experience about the dangers of eggs (and the bacon everyone ate daily)?

I think the dietary cholesterol == bad thing is just totally wrong. Sample size of 1 but i eat about 4 eggs a day and steak almost every day but it's not processed fast food and my cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. are all _excellent_

The outsized emphasis on dietary cholesterol, a molecule, and its relationship to blood "cholesterol", a type of solid particle (many aggregated molecules) composed of fats held together by cholesterol and proteins, is mostly a verbal confusion. Your "blood cholesterol" is the number density of lipoprotein particles in your blood. It is not the concentration of dissolved cholesterol qua cholest-5-en-3beta-ol.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by commandlinefan »

bottlepalm wrote: post #167

$40,000 for every man, woman and child was printed for corona stimulus. $13 trillion total. If you're wondering why all this inflation happened, it's pretty simple cause and effect.

As the Babylon Bee recently said: "Experts unsure what's causing this, but it's definitely not the thing you think it is."

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by vorpalhex »

roflyear wrote: post #75
rexreed wrote: post #48

Cream prices have more than doubled. At Target, the 32oz Heavy Cream that was $2.99 in Oct 2021 is now $6.49. And there's a cream shortage in any case. Inflation and supply chain issues.

Vegan options haven't gone up in price (much).

My oatmilk has gotten quite a bit more expensive. Cashew milk is frequently out of stock lately.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by poulsbohemian »

I’m just a backyard chicken farmer in rural America, but my input costs have remained steady. I’m feeding the same high-quality feed and grain supplement. I have cut back on meal worm treats - too expensive - but my chickens get daily fresh vegetable scraps. My hens are now way past their viability from a commercial perspective - but we still get more eggs than we need. Where I feel the pain at the grocery is butter - prices have definitely more than doubled, discounts/ coupons seem rare. I stood there with another shopper the other day and it was clear neither of us knew what to do, pondering our $6+ fate for generic brand stuff.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by joenot443 »

eftychis wrote: post #155
sequoia wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a huge proponent of backyard chickens and had them for years, but they are, generally speaking, not a "more cost effective" way to get eggs, at least in north america if you are feeding them mostly store-bought feed. Then again, this change in egg prices may change that. But they're great for redundancy (more & varied egg supply reduces the impact of supply chain shocks), to get the best quality eggs you can, and…

I am curious about that statement. Feeding chickens store bought food that is. I grew up with chickens being the garbage disposal. They will eat anything and everything. They are the cheapest animal to raise for food. (Except maybe cattle on the old west when you could parasite off the public land.) The argument against backyard chickens would be health considerations i'd say, not cost. Curious.

Eggs are very, very cheap. Building materials and time are not. Obviously the upkeep costs for laying hens is super low, but it's the startup cost that turns most people off the idea. Eggs are about $3/dozen where I am. You have to eat a _lot_ of eggs before it's actually a net positive endeavor, probably many, many years worth.

My parents have a coup on their hobby farm which my dad built on the weekends. It looks great and the eggs taste even better. That said, they were never under the impression this was a way to _save_ money, the math just doesn't make any sense.

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