I wish that countries would mandate symmetrical connections as well. This would open up so much more opportunity for self hosting web apps and allow for decentralized sites, such as peertube, to function better.
Seems like a really bad idea to mandate that download be no higher than upload. Would just result in few/no plans with high down bandwidth.
England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
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Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#122I think this comes across as shocking to Americans but the thing is the rest of the world treats internet as a utility so most governments try to get cheap and fast internet for as large a portion of the population as possible. Where as US cities and towns are stuck under its isp corporate monopolies.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#123Some color about buying home internet in London vs San Francisco (in my experience). I recently moved back from London to San Francisco. In my 3 years in central London (N1) I had to use a 5g hotspot (thank you, Vodafone unlimited) to get anything close to fast internet in my flat. If I went with a wired "broadband" connection I could not get more than 10Mbps down. The street next to mine had gigabit fiber though. Th…
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/10/want-faster-comc...
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#124I think this comes across as shocking to Americans but the thing is the rest of the world treats internet as a utility so most governments try to get cheap and fast internet for as large a portion of the population as possible. Where as US cities and towns are stuck under its isp corporate monopolies.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost all gigabit is already symmetric so this is a concern of the past.
Not the bulk of FTTP connections in the UK, to which this article refers, which run over Openreach’s common last-mile or Virgin Media’s DOCSIS cables. They’re the only National operators offering gigabit, or near-gigabit speeds. There are plenty of smaller ISPs that run their own fibre and do offer symmetric connections, but the bigger players all off asymmetric connections.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#127Just more admin fees and paperwork to build a building, making them more expensive. Make 30cm insulation a requirement so we don't pay £2000 per year for electric heating. I asked my property management company if they would, eghm, _consider_ improving external insulation, they responded they have no such legal requirements, so they won't. We pay 4x more for heating and warm water than in 2018, and have it colder and…
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost all gigabit is already symmetric so this is a concern of the past.
Not the bulk of FTTP connections in the UK, to which this article refers, which run over Openreach’s common last-mile or Virgin Media’s DOCSIS cables. They’re the only National operators offering gigabit, or near-gigabit speeds. There are plenty of smaller ISPs that run their own fibre and do offer symmetric connections, but the bigger players all off asymmetric connections.
My understanding is their new fibre lays are all “symmetric ready”, same with BT. You’re right they currently don’t operate them in that fashion, but they’ve laid the groundwork. See below.
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/11/first-trial-us...
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not the bulk of FTTP connections in the UK, to which this article refers, which run over Openreach’s common last-mile or Virgin Media’s DOCSIS cables. They’re the only National operators offering gigabit, or near-gigabit speeds. There are plenty of smaller ISPs that run their own fibre and do offer symmetric connections, but the bigger players all off asymmetric connections.
Do you know what makes them asymmetric? Is it just traffic shaping at the ISP, or is it some hardware limitation?