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Why did you select those countries specifically?
Because they're trying to make a point without coming out and saying it and they're hoping that you recognise... whatever it is that those have in common
England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
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Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#82I wish that countries would mandate symmetrical connections as well. This would open up so much more opportunity for self hosting web apps and allow for decentralized sites, such as peertube, to function better.
This law is about home networking, which has nothing do with with symmetrical/asymmetrical bandwidth allotted by your ISP.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#83I wish that countries would mandate symmetrical connections as well. This would open up so much more opportunity for self hosting web apps and allow for decentralized sites, such as peertube, to function better.
agreed. Fiber is the only option for residential symmetric in the US, and those locations are far and few between
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#84Glad they're trying something but this seems silly compared to "we're going to start a public works project where anyone in England can request their home or apartment be upgraded to be 1G capable." This law feels like it was written by someone who wanted to do anything except pay for it. The queue would be massive but that's UK tradition.
> This law feels like it was written by someone who wanted to do anything except pay for it. This sentences feels like it was written to defend companies that want to reap profits from massively profitable areas, but systematically avoid investing in upgrading service in less profitable areas. Where self-regulation falls short of serving the public interest, government regulation kicks in. Well done UK!
I think you misunderstood the comment the op made. They were saying the legislation does little, and they would rather have seen the government also invest in retrofitting older homes.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#85Is this symmetric gigabit or just download? I pay for gigabit down, 35 megabit up. My only other options are starlink or a $10k fiber install.
Your home networking setup (which this law is about) has nothing to do with symmetric/asymmetric bandwidth allotted to you by the ISP.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#86I think this comes across as shocking to Americans but the thing is the rest of the world treats internet as a utility so most governments try to get cheap and fast internet for as large a portion of the population as possible. Where as US cities and towns are stuck under its isp corporate monopolies.
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This is a pretty annoying way of commenting. If you have something to say then say it, don't pretend to make a point by asking someone else to do a whole pile of stuff. They're not in your pay.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#87Price of new houses just went up
Not really. You still have to buy the internet package from the ISP which is gigabit speed enabled. This only ensures it is available. The law isn't that free gigabit internet is to be offered to all houses.
But somebody now has to hire a lawyer and check that regulation wasn't violated. Processes have to be changed. If the law makes any difference at all, somebody had to change something, and that cost is being passed on to the consumer (=buyer/renter).
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#88Price of new houses just went up
I bet there was a vocal group of people who had the same complaint back when they mandated electrical circuit breakers and water/sewer hookups.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#89I wish that countries would mandate symmetrical connections as well. This would open up so much more opportunity for self hosting web apps and allow for decentralized sites, such as peertube, to function better.
Almost all gigabit is already symmetric so this is a concern of the past.
Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes
#90Some color about buying home internet in London vs San Francisco (in my experience).
I recently moved back from London to San Francisco. In my 3 years in central London (N1) I had to use a 5g hotspot (thank you, Vodafone unlimited) to get anything close to fast internet in my flat. If I went with a wired "broadband" connection I could not get more than 10Mbps down. The street next to mine had gigabit fiber though.
The reason? Almost all utility cables in London are underground. So replacing internet infrastructure requires ripping up the street. I lived on the high street near a tube station so I guess they hadn't laid a new line near me in 10+ years. I was really shocked after calling 15+ internet companies and finding out that nobody could offer me higher speeds. Only different prices.
Now I moved back to San Francisco and I was excited to get some fast internet in my home. Quickly it became obvious that Comcast was my only real option at my address. They had plans up to 1200MBps down, but nothing over 20Mbps up! And 50%+ of the plans had data caps. I find a 1Gbps plan with a 500GB data cap hilarious ... theoretically you could use the entire data cap in ~75 minutes if you could saturate it. That's a lot less than a month!
So basically internet is a disaster in both countries but it sounds like this is a step in the right direction.