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‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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> laughing as we chanted it on the days when we took acid and went swimming. WTF, even without the additional "challenges" of Yellowstone Lake.. I neither would nor could imagine go swimming then :o

There was recently a foot found in a pond. Lake was acidic and hot. Someone jumped in.

Please don't fuck with nature for fun. It's all great memories, but one of 100 of you will die and someone else has to find your body and clean up your mess.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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One time, I was driving at night in the Sierra after a storm - roads were covered in snow. It's a drive I've made close to 100 times without incident. Going around a bend, I saw a car in the ditch on the outside of the curve. I stopped the car, put on the hazards, and went to see if there was anyone in the car. As I was about to cross the highway a car come sliding around the bend more or less sideways. I stopped and…

The path from your hands to feet doesn't go through your heart. Really that simple.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Do your research before getting into rivers. My local river has several gauges and hotlines you can call to get dam releases. They also have a chart of the water release amounts and if you could paddle/float/canoe/kayak etc. It even has a turbidity gauge that will show you if any harmful bacteria is present, we have issues with fertilizer runoff and e-coli. It's a rather mundane river in an area not as known as Glaci…

Acquaintance did some suburban kayaking and didn't see a 3ft drop (some kind of dam or culvert under a bridge) until too late. The fluid mechanics of that drop are such that there is a vortex at the base that makes it difficult to get out. He was able to stand but just barely - scary to think how close a call that was in a pretty innocuous looking setting.

Yep. A couple of girls got killed in Pittsburgh a few years back. They were kayaking down the river and didn't realize a dam was ahead. People die all the time in nature for lack of preparedness because they don't know the environment they are getting into and they don't know their limitations. This also endangers rescuers.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Moose do not fuck around. I was solo camping just off Death Canyon trail in Grand Tetons in September of 1998 and a bull moose appeared a bit up the hill from me and started bellowing and shaking his horns at me. I really had no where to go, so I pressed myself up against a small tree, no really knowing what was going on or what to do. Just then two female moose charged through my camp down towards the stream a couple of hundred yards away. After that the bull turned and wandered around me downhill.

Turns out I had set up my tent on a barely-visible trail that they were probably accustomed to using to get up and down the slope. I don't know if I was really in any danger, but I gained more respect for moose after that.

Ironically, I'd spent the entire hike that day worrying about a bear encounter, but the only time I saw a bear was from long distance, across the valley, a mother and her cub.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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post #48

One time, I was driving at night in the Sierra after a storm - roads were covered in snow. It's a drive I've made close to 100 times without incident. Going around a bend, I saw a car in the ditch on the outside of the curve. I stopped the car, put on the hazards, and went to see if there was anyone in the car. As I was about to cross the highway a car come sliding around the bend more or less sideways. I stopped and…

i think to kill you either there needs to be enough power to burn organs, which still may only affect one limb and not be fatal, or to pass through your heart, say from one arm to another, or arm to opposite leg, and for your heart to be disrupted rather than just shocked. But the two aspects are the amount of power and the path the current takes. Maybe the floor tile was above a waterproof membrane, like a wet-room, and so inhibited the power current flow?

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Acquaintance did some suburban kayaking and didn't see a 3ft drop (some kind of dam or culvert under a bridge) until too late. The fluid mechanics of that drop are such that there is a vortex at the base that makes it difficult to get out. He was able to stand but just barely - scary to think how close a call that was in a pretty innocuous looking setting.

Those are called "weirs", and often known as drowning machines. Practical Engineering on youtube has a great video about them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkR79oDAgOg&vl=en

The same guy has a video called "The Most Dangerous Dams" [length 8:43]. It seems so be less technical and more focused on the dangerous aspects.

edit: link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVDpqphHhAE

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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post #4

Do your research before getting into rivers. My local river has several gauges and hotlines you can call to get dam releases. They also have a chart of the water release amounts and if you could paddle/float/canoe/kayak etc. It even has a turbidity gauge that will show you if any harmful bacteria is present, we have issues with fertilizer runoff and e-coli. It's a rather mundane river in an area not as known as Glaci…

Acquaintance did some suburban kayaking and didn't see a 3ft drop (some kind of dam or culvert under a bridge) until too late. The fluid mechanics of that drop are such that there is a vortex at the base that makes it difficult to get out. He was able to stand but just barely - scary to think how close a call that was in a pretty innocuous looking setting.

weirs are drowning machines. Nothing more, nothing less.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Acquaintance did some suburban kayaking and didn't see a 3ft drop (some kind of dam or culvert under a bridge) until too late. The fluid mechanics of that drop are such that there is a vortex at the base that makes it difficult to get out. He was able to stand but just barely - scary to think how close a call that was in a pretty innocuous looking setting.

Yep. A couple of girls got killed in Pittsburgh a few years back. They were kayaking down the river and didn't realize a dam was ahead. People die all the time in nature for lack of preparedness because they don't know the environment they are getting into and they don't know their limitations. This also endangers rescuers.

Practical Engineering has a video on the dangers of a lowhead dam - https://youtu.be/GVDpqphHhAE

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Do your research before getting into rivers. My local river has several gauges and hotlines you can call to get dam releases. They also have a chart of the water release amounts and if you could paddle/float/canoe/kayak etc. It even has a turbidity gauge that will show you if any harmful bacteria is present, we have issues with fertilizer runoff and e-coli. It's a rather mundane river in an area not as known as Glaci…

I’ve done a decent amount of white water and stories like this make me shiver. If you’re in moving water, standing is surprisingly dangerous. Float or swim (depending on the current) to calm water and get out there. If you stand (and especially walk) in a fast current, you’re asking to get your foot caught and then drowned.

My story was short. A tree at chest level knocked us over a couple feet from the end of fork. We floated a couple feet until we were dumped back into the main channel were there is little to no current. My heel caught a treble hook from my fishing pole. I had to dog paddle the kayak a couple feet to the bank and get the hook out of my heel.

There aren't even any classed rapids in this area its more of a lazy river thing. An hour or so away there are some cool rapids leftover from prior Olympic Games that has a consistent dam release.

We were on sit on top kayaks.

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