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The response from a caricature vs a respectful historical depiction may be very different. Remember that in US this happened not a long time ago: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Salman_Rushdie
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Morocco and Andalucia are pretty close, you can spot Morocco´s coast from some places. Also, there is the issue of Ceuta and Melilla.
Yes, only a stone's throw. Why doesn't Spain have the ~6% Muslim population of France or Germany?
In the case of Germany is probably because they received a lot of Turkish workers after WWII.
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I'm not alt-right and I'm not white and I'm not religious. I agree completely with that view.
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#244This was the wrong decision. Liberal institutions in the west have begun to increasingly yield to the demands of extremist minority views and doing so only emboldens them. You are free to insult white people, Christianity, and non transexual heterosexual men in this country but everyone else is a protected class. Even speaking positively or respectfully discussing the protected classes in a vaguely defined wrong way…
> institutions act outraged over Florida's "don't say gay" bill Were you upset of the 'don't say gay bill'? It's an example, not just of a single school acting to restrict academic freedom and freedom of expression in general, but the actual government enforcing this on ALL schools. That should be enraging to anyone who cares about freedom. A elementary school teacher was fired not too long ago for reading 'A need a…
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Yes, only a stone's throw. Why doesn't Spain have the ~6% Muslim population of France or Germany?
Getting goods from Spain can be done without needing to make a big trip, thus, needing to settle yourself for long in France.
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Sometimes even the worst people have a point. Ideas can't be thrown out just because they happen to be shared by bad people. It's the intellectual form of judging a book by its cover. It's the reason political echo chambers get so ridiculous and the country is so divided. An idea is just an idea and should be judged on it's own merits.
What a hill to publicly die on.
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> I mean, we do though. Generational wealth is a thing. American slavery isn't even the distant past 70% of generational wealth is lost by the 2nd generation, 90% by the 3rd generation[1][2][3], and it grows even more distant each generation after that. American slavery was around 15-20 generations ago, meaning there is almost zero generational wealth left in the same family hands from slavery. Also, a tiny percentag…
> American slavery was around 15-20 generations ago Maybe you missed where I said the last person born into slavery died in living memory. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_last_survivors_of_Am... But the discussion of slavery kind of misses the larger point; that systemic discrimination was not in fact dismantled in America with the end of chattel slavery. Other systems replaced the intent, and those persisted…
You are the one making the argument that we need racial discrimination to right past wrongs. I gave you the reasons that is not only immoral, but unworkable. So if you have some method to make your vision of present & future racial discrimination a net benefit for society, I would like to hear it. Logically it isn't possible, so I'm curious to hear your proposed solution.
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Getting goods from Spain can be done without needing to make a big trip, thus, needing to settle yourself for long in France.
So immigration into Europe is about convenient access to goods? Does that sound right?
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Yes, it's cringe because it's said as a laughing matter and can have no consequences nowadays or it mostly doesn't. I used to think this way too before and I am still not liberal but the thing with racism is, the start might be jokes but once it's systematic because "nobody cares it's just jokes" those same words might start to hit differently. The liberals can be overreaching about such matters, but I personally thi…
The point is, banning things does not solve problems. It just complicates things, force people to act in certain ways to make sure they aren't racist, instead of being genuine. When I'm accepted into interviews for jobs that aren't going to hire me anyway... it just wastes my time and their time. The problem isn't much about racism, it is about some people act like jerks. And people can be jerks with or without racis…
sometimes things escalate and this same random jerk might murder you if they think there is a high chance they will escape the justice system because you're basically a subhuman under the new laws that these lighthearted racists passed.
You can't make everyone good and decent, but you can for sure punish the racists and limit their access to power and that's what banning does in this case.
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The point is, banning things does not solve problems. It just complicates things, force people to act in certain ways to make sure they aren't racist, instead of being genuine. When I'm accepted into interviews for jobs that aren't going to hire me anyway... it just wastes my time and their time. The problem isn't much about racism, it is about some people act like jerks. And people can be jerks with or without racis…
The point of banning racism is so people don't feel comfortable doing it in public Because once that's there, systematic racism is going to be back, things won't stop at the random jerk level. Being a jerk might be because someone had a bad day etc, it's not loaded, you can counter it and it's not organized hate. But racism is different, racism targets anyone who looks like you, and it's usually organized efforts and…