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Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#91

I have 20k miles driving a Model S with a Yoke. While I'm not a huge fan, the yoke itself is only part of the problem. The bigger problems are: 1. The capacitive buttons for turn signals. They are dangerous. They require taking eyes from the road, offer no feedback, and are honestly dangerous. 2. The horn. It's not in the middle. It's off to the side as a no-feedback capacitive button. Every time I've needed to use t…

Jesus the capacitive touch signaling is astoundingly stupid. The horn, though. In decades of driving, I've used my horn maybe once or twice.

When that rare case happens, though, it can be rather important to signal fast.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#92

I have 20k miles driving a Model S with a Yoke. While I'm not a huge fan, the yoke itself is only part of the problem. The bigger problems are: 1. The capacitive buttons for turn signals. They are dangerous. They require taking eyes from the road, offer no feedback, and are honestly dangerous. 2. The horn. It's not in the middle. It's off to the side as a no-feedback capacitive button. Every time I've needed to use t…

Sounds almost like the flat web UI that took over the desktops is now infecting physical gadgets.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#93

I literally cancelled my Plaid S order and switched to a Model Y over the stupidity of the yoke. I simply could not square that circle, so to speak. They emailed me telling me it was going to be ready for delivery and I said, "you know what, I can tell I'm going to hate it." I'm really glad I did that. I simply cannot understand how the yoke ever made sense, aside from being a 13-year-old's idea of what a cool car wo…

I reckon what you are seeing with Tesla's is kind of what Musk is doing with Twitter...

Essentially, remove and/or change a bunch of things (people & features) then see if it still works in production. Literally the same thing is happening with a range of Tesla's - the Model Y is the more "normal" car because its cheaper thus more popular. Whereas the more expensive Tesla's have the more experimental crap, because people with more money are tolerant of bespoke/weird shit.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#94

Absolutely horrible design was the yoke. Almost crashed into neighbours' car due to it. Had to dump the car itself since I hated the steering so much. Who came up with such a dumb idea. This is as dumb as the touchbar on the mac pros.

I suspect that a lot of Tesla design decisions boil down to positioning it as "innovative" and "disrupting" compared to normal cars.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#95

I have an S with a yoke and prefer it to a round steering wheel. 95% of the time it’s better: you can see the entire dashboard and your body can feel the angle of the wheel instinctively. 5% of the time it’s worse, during low speed maneuvers.

You know what's even better? A proper HUD.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#96
post #34

Literally tried to reinvent the wheel and is now paying the consequences.

Yeah but I'm glad they are trying new things. If it isn't better, then revert.

With cars especially, I'd rather they don't do it "in prod" - meaning on the roads where I also drive.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#97
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Features like these should be bulletproof because they pose a serious safety hazard. Safety features should be priority number one for any car manufacturer. You can ship with a crappy infotainment system but please don’t screw around with basic safety.

In the first place, how are non-working blinkers not illegal to drive with?

How are they not illegal to sell to drivers? I am continually astonished about the social experiment being done on drivers buying these cars and others who have no choice but to share the road with them.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Model S Plaid and they do have haptic feedback when you press them, but the problem is they require muscle memory to know the exact place to press to get left/right turn signal or horn. I'm 6'1" and the horn is particularly problematic because it requires stretching your right thumb an uncomfortable amount to hit it. It reminds me of using a very large smartphone and trying to use your thumb to reach a tap p…

You just explained it doesn't make great cars, and you wish the government could make them make great cars.

I wish the government could make them make safe cars or not sell them for use on public roads. They used to do that and it wasn’t controversial for like 36? of my 40 years on this earth.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#99
post #22

It wasn't the shape of the wheel that was the problem. It was the unasked-for capacitive-touch turn signal buttons located on the left side of the wheel, instead of a turn-signal lever. The round wheel keeps those useless buttons, so is not a solution to the problem. You still have to use your left thumb to pick between these two buttons. They don't push in, have no feedback and they are often unresponsive, especiall…

I have a Model S Plaid and they do have haptic feedback when you press them, but the problem is they require muscle memory to know the exact place to press to get left/right turn signal or horn. I'm 6'1" and the horn is particularly problematic because it requires stretching your right thumb an uncomfortable amount to hit it. It reminds me of using a very large smartphone and trying to use your thumb to reach a tap p…

Touchscreen for forward/reverse? That's totally, literally insane!

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#100

Absolutely horrible design was the yoke. Almost crashed into neighbours' car due to it. Had to dump the car itself since I hated the steering so much. Who came up with such a dumb idea. This is as dumb as the touchbar on the mac pros.

Well, we've watched this at Twitter right - Musk will come in with a really strong dumb opinion on some weirdly specific issue, and then insist on a specific solution and only relent after the decision has been implemented and shown to be wrong. The yoke is the Tesla version of the Twitter Blue Tick. The rumours are that the guys at SpaceX are just much better at managing Elon and avoiding this, but it makes you wonder what weird decisions have been made there too.
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