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Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by pengaru »

georgewfraser wrote: post #12

I have an S with a yoke and prefer it to a round steering wheel. 95% of the time it’s better: you can see the entire dashboard and your body can feel the angle of the wheel instinctively. 5% of the time it’s worse, during low speed maneuvers.

It's a very natural thing to unwind a wheel with a dragged hand when entering traffic from a stop on a perpendicular side street. And I'd argue that's far more than 5% of the substantial steering a driver does.

They could have just flattened the circle on the top like a D wheel to give some clearance on the instrumentation. Interrupting the continuous shape with a yoke is the problem, not that it isn't a circle.

It's as if the decision makers behind the yoke don't drive themselves, or were actively trying to make the driving experience worse to compel FSD adoption

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by Lendal »

It wasn't the shape of the wheel that was the problem. It was the unasked-for capacitive-touch turn signal buttons located on the left side of the wheel, instead of a turn-signal lever. The round wheel keeps those useless buttons, so is not a solution to the problem. You still have to use your left thumb to pick between these two buttons. They don't push in, have no feedback and they are often unresponsive, especially when you attempt to push one while turning the wheel at the same time with your left thumb at an odd angle. It just doesn't work. Bring back the turn signal lever.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by heavyset_go »

jdminhbg wrote: post #9
jrm4 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why you shouldn't "set out to reinvent" just for the sake of looking cool, and why Tesla is starting to be valued at what it's actually worth, aka not a whole lot.

> aka not a whole lot Lord grant me a business worth $400B, aka not a whole lot.

It's still got a way to go until it reaches a sane valuation, and the stock is still falling.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by asdff »

themitigating wrote: post #15
modeless wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually isn't it more annoying? FSD will be turning the wheel a lot more than regular autopilot, but you still have to keep hands on the wheel frequently or it will disengage. It will only be better when hands on wheel is no longer required.

Some new FSD systems only require that you look forward. There is a camera that monitors your eyes

What if you wear sunglasses while driving?

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by _9omd »

asdff wrote: post #19
georgewfraser wrote: post #12

I have an S with a yoke and prefer it to a round steering wheel. 95% of the time it’s better: you can see the entire dashboard and your body can feel the angle of the wheel instinctively. 5% of the time it’s worse, during low speed maneuvers.

You should be able to see the entire dash board with any steering wheel

It really depends on your height and preferred wheel height setting. I'm tall and in some cars the wheel obscures a good portion of the insturments.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by vkou »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #20

Absolutely horrible design was the yoke. Almost crashed into neighbours' car due to it. Had to dump the car itself since I hated the steering so much. Who came up with such a dumb idea. This is as dumb as the touchbar on the mac pros.

It was probably a cost-saving measure, just like the touchpad in lieu of a physical console.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by Hellion »

Lendal wrote: post #22

It wasn't the shape of the wheel that was the problem. It was the unasked-for capacitive-touch turn signal buttons located on the left side of the wheel, instead of a turn-signal lever. The round wheel keeps those useless buttons, so is not a solution to the problem. You still have to use your left thumb to pick between these two buttons. They don't push in, have no feedback and they are often unresponsive, especiall…

Mercedes put a bunch of these in the $100k plus EQS.

Car companies: we are begging you, please stop with controls without pressure sensitivity and haptic feedback. Copy apple if you need to, just cut it out!

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by darknavi »

pnw wrote: post #18

My S was wrecked in a crash (I was unhurt luckily) and instead of replacing it with a new S I bought a Y instead, solely because of the yoke with the touch controls instead of a round wheel with stalks. I can't be the only person who reacted like that, because Tesla wouldn't even let you test drive a car with the yoke last I checked.

How do you like the Y coming from the S? We had a 3 and added a Y and now we barely drive the 3. Strictly a commuter.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by Hellion »

_9omd wrote: post #25
asdff wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be able to see the entire dash board with any steering wheel

It really depends on your height and preferred wheel height setting. I'm tall and in some cars the wheel obscures a good portion of the insturments.

There are significant and effective federal regulations around this. If you are telling the truth, your steering wheel is way too high, and you need to lower it

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by ec109685 »

asdff wrote: post #24
themitigating wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some new FSD systems only require that you look forward. There is a camera that monitors your eyes

What if you wear sunglasses while driving?

Then you have to jiggle the wheel.
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