As Fred mentions the main problem with the steering wheel is that the car doesn't change the steering ratio depending on the speed.
WHAT? Facepalm. Everytime I read something new about the yoke, I m amazed how incompetent the people are, that put that in a car.
Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
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Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#52I have 20k miles driving a Model S with a Yoke. While I'm not a huge fan, the yoke itself is only part of the problem. The bigger problems are: 1. The capacitive buttons for turn signals. They are dangerous. They require taking eyes from the road, offer no feedback, and are honestly dangerous. 2. The horn. It's not in the middle. It's off to the side as a no-feedback capacitive button. Every time I've needed to use t…
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> aka not a whole lot Lord grant me a business worth $400B, aka not a whole lot.
It's still got a way to go until it reaches a sane valuation, and the stock is still falling.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#54It wasn't the shape of the wheel that was the problem. It was the unasked-for capacitive-touch turn signal buttons located on the left side of the wheel, instead of a turn-signal lever. The round wheel keeps those useless buttons, so is not a solution to the problem. You still have to use your left thumb to pick between these two buttons. They don't push in, have no feedback and they are often unresponsive, especiall…
I have a Model S Plaid and they do have haptic feedback when you press them, but the problem is they require muscle memory to know the exact place to press to get left/right turn signal or horn. I'm 6'1" and the horn is particularly problematic because it requires stretching your right thumb an uncomfortable amount to hit it. It reminds me of using a very large smartphone and trying to use your thumb to reach a tap p…
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have to pick, There's literally no one that is forced to choose from $50,000+ electric cars.
If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of. Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregio…
Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregious considering total cost of ownership savings. One could buy an equally expensive combustion vehicle I suppose. Prices for a new Toyota Highlander currently range from $37k to $67k, for example.
I wasn't arguing, was just poking fun at the phrasing that suggested buyers were forced to choose between a couple of expensive cars from one company.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#56i don't mind the turn signal buttons but the driving experience is not ideal for quick reactions, and the horn...has got to go
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#57I'm a big for of smaller steering wheels that are out of the way. They use to make sense when you needed to apply lots of torque manually (aka no power steering) but gone are those days.
> For example, if you lose control on an icy road, it could be harder to do some quick maneuvers to regain control.
No F1 driver is winning a world championship with a wheel and not a yoke. The statement in the article is incorrect. The yoke actually makes it easier to do quick moves but in icy conditions that's not what you want.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#58Article is a bit of a joke. Honestly we should be able to control a car with that degree of freedom. I'm a big for of smaller steering wheels that are out of the way. They use to make sense when you needed to apply lots of torque manually (aka no power steering) but gone are those days. > For example, if you lose control on an icy road, it could be harder to do some quick maneuvers to regain control. No F1 driver is…
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#59I have 20k miles driving a Model S with a Yoke. While I'm not a huge fan, the yoke itself is only part of the problem. The bigger problems are: 1. The capacitive buttons for turn signals. They are dangerous. They require taking eyes from the road, offer no feedback, and are honestly dangerous. 2. The horn. It's not in the middle. It's off to the side as a no-feedback capacitive button. Every time I've needed to use t…
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of. Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregio…
If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of. Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregio…