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Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#51
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As Fred mentions the main problem with the steering wheel is that the car doesn't change the steering ratio depending on the speed.

WHAT? Facepalm. Everytime I read something new about the yoke, I m amazed how incompetent the people are, that put that in a car.

Lexus already has steer-by-wire for its yoke steering wheel, hopefully Tesla will catch up this year

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#52

I have 20k miles driving a Model S with a Yoke. While I'm not a huge fan, the yoke itself is only part of the problem. The bigger problems are: 1. The capacitive buttons for turn signals. They are dangerous. They require taking eyes from the road, offer no feedback, and are honestly dangerous. 2. The horn. It's not in the middle. It's off to the side as a no-feedback capacitive button. Every time I've needed to use t…

Yikes, buttons for turn signals? I can barely get a "legacy" horn to honk sometimes even

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#53
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> aka not a whole lot Lord grant me a business worth $400B, aka not a whole lot.

It's still got a way to go until it reaches a sane valuation, and the stock is still falling.

I'd love for it to drop to a 'sane' valuation so I could get in. Already itching to pull the trigger, but I think it could shave off another $20-30.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#54
post #22

It wasn't the shape of the wheel that was the problem. It was the unasked-for capacitive-touch turn signal buttons located on the left side of the wheel, instead of a turn-signal lever. The round wheel keeps those useless buttons, so is not a solution to the problem. You still have to use your left thumb to pick between these two buttons. They don't push in, have no feedback and they are often unresponsive, especiall…

I have a Model S Plaid and they do have haptic feedback when you press them, but the problem is they require muscle memory to know the exact place to press to get left/right turn signal or horn. I'm 6'1" and the horn is particularly problematic because it requires stretching your right thumb an uncomfortable amount to hit it. It reminds me of using a very large smartphone and trying to use your thumb to reach a tap p…

You just explained it doesn't make great cars, and you wish the government could make them make great cars.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have to pick, There's literally no one that is forced to choose from $50,000+ electric cars.

If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of. Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregio…

If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of.

Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregious considering total cost of ownership savings. One could buy an equally expensive combustion vehicle I suppose. Prices for a new Toyota Highlander currently range from $37k to $67k, for example.

I wasn't arguing, was just poking fun at the phrasing that suggested buyers were forced to choose between a couple of expensive cars from one company.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#57
Article is a bit of a joke. Honestly we should be able to control a car with that degree of freedom.

I'm a big for of smaller steering wheels that are out of the way. They use to make sense when you needed to apply lots of torque manually (aka no power steering) but gone are those days.

> For example, if you lose control on an icy road, it could be harder to do some quick maneuvers to regain control.

No F1 driver is winning a world championship with a wheel and not a yoke. The statement in the article is incorrect. The yoke actually makes it easier to do quick moves but in icy conditions that's not what you want.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#58
post #57

Article is a bit of a joke. Honestly we should be able to control a car with that degree of freedom. I'm a big for of smaller steering wheels that are out of the way. They use to make sense when you needed to apply lots of torque manually (aka no power steering) but gone are those days. > For example, if you lose control on an icy road, it could be harder to do some quick maneuvers to regain control. No F1 driver is…

No F1 driver is doing a 3-point turn using a 14:1 steering ratio either.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#59

I have 20k miles driving a Model S with a Yoke. While I'm not a huge fan, the yoke itself is only part of the problem. The bigger problems are: 1. The capacitive buttons for turn signals. They are dangerous. They require taking eyes from the road, offer no feedback, and are honestly dangerous. 2. The horn. It's not in the middle. It's off to the side as a no-feedback capacitive button. Every time I've needed to use t…

physical buttons are reliable, easily repairable, more accessible to people with a variety of conditions, allow you to memorize location with feel, etc. I've never met anyone who's preferred capacitive buttons over physical ones yet more and more every "smart" technology seems to be opting for them. Some have even added haptic touch-like software to them... just to regain the feeling of the thing that everyone misses but without actually giving them the thing they want...

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of. Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregio…

If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of. Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregio…

My apologies! I was in the mindset of “if you can only acquire one Tesla [for whatever reason], this is the one you’d want.” There are plenty of other fine EV models out there for a consumer to pick from if a Tesla isn’t right for them.
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