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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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post #101

Yet another reminder that centralized proprietary platforms run by for-profit megacorps are not friends of FOSS. They can and will censor anything that they arbitrarily consider to be a brand risk. https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/ Working to move all my decades of open source work and communities off GitHub in the coming months to self hosted Gitea.

To be fair, this repo is not FOSS

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Interesting. Maybe I was fooled by some deliberate outrage machine. I only read about the "white only" mod. Not the other two. Talk about cherry-picking... The silver lining of this bullshit is that this again underscores how important critical thinking is.

If you think making 3 such mods is not racist yet just one is, think again.

None of it is racist nor problematic.

As an example, there are plenty of racist things a black only mod enables.

Yellow only I would use if I still liked The Simpsons and played the game in question.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

#263
post #9

Reddit thread here : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/au... update: Gitgud repo created here : https://gitgud.io/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui (Gitgud seems to be really slow) Further update : Account was suspended due to "TOS violations" : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103uwx1/au...

> A possible reason are the apparently racist game mods he'd also been creating on the same account, including removing any non-white characters from Rimworld and a mod called 'peaceful protests' which is seemingly criticizing the valid upset about George Floyd's murder by the state.

> ...a mod called 'peaceful protests' which is seemingly criticizing the valid upset about George Floyd's murder by the state.

If that that's the ban reason, it's pretty Orwellian. There was a lot of severe property destruction (e.g. arson) during those protests, some of which was indisputably committed by people aligned with the protests. They were complicated events, with peaceful and violent parts. They were only one or the other when seen through a blinkered political orthodoxy.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

#264

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Circumstantial evidence is real evidence. People get convicted over it regularly. People in the Jim Crow era were convicted without evidence, or had exonerating evidence hidden by racist law enforcement and prosecutors. It’s hardly the same.

Seems like you have decided that based off of someone's race that all circumstantial evidence should be assumed to prove guilt

On the off-chance that you're arguing in good faith: No.

Circumstantial evidence becomes compelling only when there's a lot of it, all in one direction, without exonerating or at least contradictory evidence of some kind.

If you have white robes with pointy hats, a noose, and a Confederate flag in your closet, I'm very comfortable assuming certain facts about you. If you can come up with a good explanation - perhaps you're an actor in a play about the civil rights era - I'm prepared to shift that conclusion, but "nuh uh, this doesn't prove anything!" isn't a compelling response to it.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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There's one, and only one takeaway for me: it's time to start hosting my own git repos, and only treat GitHub as a mirror. (And on top of that, mirror elsewhere incase my host decides to boot me off.)

The arguments over moderation have gone nowhere. The same people who demand over and over that "something be done" about keep scratching their heads after events like this, and ponder how we got here.

Decentralized is the future.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

#266
post #45

Whatever side you are on in this debate of "should GitHub decide what is good and bad" I think most people would agree that they really should quote a specific violation of specific TOS when they close your account. This should be the norm, as opposed to the current situation in which you are left wondering what the hell was problematic that some GitHub employee disagrees with. The corporation may benefit from having…

> they really should quote a specific violation of specific TOS when they close your account. I suspect this ends up being impractical, due to helping the bad actors too much. I think moderation being so inconsistent/unclear is mostly because moderation is difficult.

Imagine if we used the same logic for law enforcement. "We can't tell you what's illegal because that would help bad actors. Also, not knowing the law is not a defence for violating it."

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

#267

Reddit thread here : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/au... update: Gitgud repo created here : https://gitgud.io/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui (Gitgud seems to be really slow) Further update : Account was suspended due to "TOS violations" : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103uwx1/au...

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Why is that of note? It doesn’t explain anything related to GitHub’s takedown of the repository.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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post #172

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A1111 did the following things: - Made a mod removing all non-white characters in a video game. - Put black people and artists who draw black people in a category/folder called "n". - Is allegedly also anti-semitic but I don't think the "((()))" thing is proof of that. I don't think there is anything Micro$ofty going on. Just a racist being banned.

> - Made a mod removing all non-white characters in a video game. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=15187... “Edit 26-mar-2020: finally, the injustice has been corrected: all races are welcome! You can choose the range of skin colors you want in mod settings.” > - Put black people and artists who draw black people in a category/folder called "n". this doesn’t really mean anything. > - Is allegedl…

I don't really see how that Steam link is supposed to be helping their case here... Yeah sure, you can change the settings on the mod called "Whites Only", and we are supposed to be like "oh, ok, I guess thats fine then"?

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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post #81

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I see what you mean. I don't think it's racist though if you're classifying artists by their style, to classify those that focus on painting black people with that kind of style as such. Because you're classifying the style, not the artists' skin color (and there's logically a correlation between black artists and artists that focus on depicting black people). You could argue maybe that using the letter "n" could be…

I think the main problem here is that people are enjoying the witch hunt too much, and this prevents them from weighting up alternative explanations that aren't as dramatic. My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusatio…

> My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusation, given the lack of evidence.

So I loaded up A111, selected the 'n' category, and ran a few pictures using random artists from said category.

The results were all black. The category itself is actually useful to me, now that I know it exists — I use the AI to generate illustrations for my fanfiction, and getting non-white, non-asian outputs is difficult at best — but labelling it "n" is, uh, suspicious.

In combination with everything else, I don't think there's really any doubts about his thought process here. :(

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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> Prior to its use as an antisemitic label or identifier, ((( screen name ))) had been used in online communities such as AOL to indicate that a user was "cyberhugging" the user with the specified screen name. Why are all the nice things ruined by bigots.

It's runined by professional victims. The bigots would have no voice without their victims' amplification.

It is rarely the identified group complaining and instead almost exclusively rich, no problem in the real world, people and or trolls.

The impact is overwhelming power transfer to racists.

This makes sense given the skewed overlay of people who are now "social justice warriors" that were once incredibly prejudice clowns.

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