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Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by violini »

cypress66 wrote: post #67
Semaphor wrote: post #42

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I see what you mean. I don't think it's racist though if you're classifying artists by their style, to classify those that focus on painting black people with that kind of style as such. Because you're classifying the style, not the artists' skin color (and there's logically a correlation between black artists and artists that focus on depicting black people). You could argue maybe that using the letter "n" could be…

I think the main problem here is that people are enjoying the witch hunt too much, and this prevents them from weighting up alternative explanations that aren't as dramatic.

My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusation, given the lack of evidence.

It will be quite embarrassing all round if this just turns out to be a run-of-the-mill copyright strike, or similar.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by dsign »

mellosouls wrote: post #17

There's some (instinctive?) criticism of Microsoft/GitHub here but as others have pointed out, the maintainer appears to be uploading racist content. If that's the case, it's a clear boot. It ought to be clarified though.

The material proof of the allegations are so tenuous at this point that I'm way more concerned about...well, that we are about to ban the letter 'n' because it ca_ be i_terpreted as racist.

For what is worth, I thi_k we should all grow a thicker ski_ a_d be ready to defe_d the thi_gs that matter, like our right to express freely without havi_g to watch our words for the _ext time somebody somewhere may take offe_se with what we say.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by ilyt »

dijit wrote: post #13
donkeyd wrote: post #5

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Looking at the Reddit thread about this, there was some arguably racist stuff going on in his repo which could've been related to this suspension. I'm not sure whether this is the right way to handle such things (banning those specific repo's might be better), but it would be somewhat understandable.

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> I don't know if github is a good arbiter of what is and what isn't considered hate speech

I think they have proved beyond shadow of doubt that they are not

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by bongobingo1 »

bayindirh wrote: post #51
dig1 wrote: post #47

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At some point, someone will (re)discover the Linux Kernel development model again and announce that chatting over a mailing list, reporting bugs over (self-hosted) Bugzilla and sending patches via mail is the best thing since sliced bread ;)

That's called source hut ( https://sourcehut.org ), which I use with great delight.

sourcehut has some pretty major ui stumbles IMO, particularly the unlinked nature of a project, eg: Get from https://git.sr.ht/~tsileo/microblog.pub to the ticket list. The ticket writing interface is pretty lackluster, mostly because its stuffed over the side and previewing shrinks the interface each time.

Pretty sure its an intentional, or at least a side effect, of the component nature of srht's codebase (afaik), where each part is a separate service. The rest is from its no/minimal-js design.

I don't make it, so I'm not saying it must be changed, but I find it annoying to use at best, and doubt I am alone. But they're probably not targeting me so ...

It's also pretty slow, not sure if it has global hosting.

I do very much appreciate that it doesn't try to gamify anything, I wish I could disable gh from tracking follows/stars/stats - I can greasemonkey them away but I still know they exist, which leaves me the temptation to check. Strictly a personal issue but it still exists.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Semaphor »

cypress66 wrote: post #67
Semaphor wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I see what you mean. I don't think it's racist though if you're classifying artists by their style, to classify those that focus on painting black people with that kind of style as such. Because you're classifying the style, not the artists' skin color (and there's logically a correlation between black artists and artists that focus on depicting black people). You could argue maybe that using the letter "n" could be…

Playing advocate to your advocate: Then why have the category as n when all (?) others are full words or even multiple? And they are all in English, black comes to mind first for black.

Regarding the content: That would still be a questionable classification, but even more so for someone like "RETNA (Marquis Lewis)" who rarely ever seems to depict people.

All in all it’s very sketchy, though one could probably construct ways it’s not racist, and it might not even be racist, though I doubt it.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by luckylion »

dsr_ wrote: post #80
oefrha wrote: post #44

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I have no frigging idea even triple parentheses are unspeakable now. Just ran rg '\(\(\(.*\)\)\)' in my projects directory and found many instances authored by me. Guess I should prioritize fixing these, or next time I'm the target of some controversy, someone will use these as evidence of my antisemitism.

Using multiple parens around a name is derogatory code for "this person is Jewish". Context is important.

So (((disfigured feet))) in the linked prompt means the feet are Jewish, and it's not about increasing the term weight?

Thanks, I learned something new today.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by poszlem »

bunbun69 wrote: post #76
poszlem wrote: post #66

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And yet it's the minimum we expect from our legal system, I don't understand why we are okay with corporations being exempt from that.

Using GitHub is a privilege, not a right You should do your business elsewhere if you don't agree with GitHub TOS

I am not talking about the current situation. I am saying that it should not be legal for companies to refuse to server a customer without giving a clear reason why they do so. Unless you think it would be fine, for example, for corporations to refuse serving minorities citing their TOS?

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by ceejayoz »

gitfan86 wrote: post #74
input_sh wrote: post #39

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How would it be a coincidence? Looking through that file, I can't think of a single charitable interpretation for that categorization.

It is extremely common for programmers to use short names while coding. I use "const r" a lot instead of "const results". Do you think I'm doing that because I hate a group of people that are called a derogatory word that begins with r?

If it was the variable name for an array of famous autistic people, it might raise eyebrows, especially if coupled with other coincidences.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by sshine »

dijit wrote: post #13
donkeyd wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the Reddit thread about this, there was some arguably racist stuff going on in his repo which could've been related to this suspension. I'm not sure whether this is the right way to handle such things (banning those specific repo's might be better), but it would be somewhat understandable.

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Disclaimer: I don't understand the context; I'm simply commenting on https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020158613093892256/1...:

> [...] nsfw [...] on all fours [...] balls [...] penis between paws [...]

He got banned for sex prompting?

> [...] disfigured face, missing eyes, missing limbs [...] 2 toes, 3 toes [...]

Okay, okay... maybe GitHub isn't the place for popularising gore porn generators, but...

> [...] child, young [...]

Ah.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Semaphor »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #58
Semaphor wrote: post #28

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Just wait till you hear that some circles of the net think using pepe the frog is a racist dog whistle.

Or that using the ok finger gesture briefly was career ending because 4chan openly declared a psyop to see if they could bait social media into declaring it a white supremacist symbol. Worked like a charm and hysteria abounded for a couple of months before the next hysteria was birthed and that one quickly forgotten. Unfortunately, some people who don't keep up with the day-to-day changes in what's considered unaccep…

Wow, that probably was contained within the US? Never heard of it.

edit: Background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol

Seems like they managed to have white power fans actually adopt it.

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