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How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by causality0 »

philliphaydon wrote: post #70
causality0 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand what kind of masochist wants all their windows to be grouped together with no labels so you have no idea what you were working on until you open it again and have to click multiple times. Thirty years of windows and there's still no setting I can tick to make the taskbar adjust automatically to the number of things I have open? If I have nothing open, hide it. If I have twenty different windo…

> have to click multiple times. Huh? It’s hover and 1 click?

Hovering and clicking does not take less time than clicking twice. Back in the golden days you could actually see what you were doing without having to move the mouse at all.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by n1vz3r »

As a long-time Linux user with habit of throwing everything into the mix, I got quite used to number of inconsistencies that I have, so I don't think that MS deserves criticism for having them too (although article is not very critical, it just counts the inconsisitencies). I have GTK2/3/4 apps, KDE apps, Qt apps, Electron apps, AND Windows apps running under wine. So the only consistency on my desktop is an inconsistency. Also Windows has good track record for backwards compatibility, no surprise that an OS has some "ancient" parts.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by herbst »

fest wrote: post #63
jve wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ncpa.cpl cuts a long way to get there.

It looks like Windows is heading towards Linux in this matter- having to know weird commands to get things done effectively. I only use Windows occasionally, but when I have to set up a printer (shared from another computer) or file sharing, I often have to resort to either creating obscure registry entries based on random internet tutorials or use command line to figure out what exactly the GUI wizard means by "the…

> It looks like Windows is heading towards Linux in this matter

IMO Windows is just moving backwards. Back in the days for both os you needed to knew unobvious things. Registry and MMC being prime examples for windows. Some of todays Linux flavours come with consistent control panels that solve 99% of all common problems in the same UI wrapping cli tools you could also use if you want. Something Windows is far away from at this point.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by vasqw »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #44
daemin wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So does Windows itself. If you're afraid to or don't want to pay for software then you should probably use some variant of GNU/Linux instead.

> Windows doesn't cost money because I pirate it. I think the parent was assuming only legal options. If that's not a constraint, then food, cars, etc. are also free.

Where I live it's not illegal to pirate software for personal use.

Also, taking someone's car or food deprives them of them. Making a copy of Windows doesn't make it impossible for Microsoft to keep selling it.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by phpisthebest »

jeroenhd wrote: post #21
mihaaly wrote: post #3

I am still looking forward for the option to ungroup task bar buttons, preferably with titles. Again! Something that was there before, worked, and was useful. But some designer decided we don't need that, to the bin with it!

Microsoft seemed intent on removing settings and features that only a small segment of their telemetry showed enabled, probably because of some code cleanup efforts. This is despite their earlier attempt to convince everyone to use the weird 3D image editor instead of MS Paint. A real shame, because they showed with Windows 7 that they can redesign the OS UI without giving up features from earlier versions if they wa…

I dont like either, both take their lead from mac os, which I also do not like

I am a gnome2 person, KDE, win7, etc type UI, if I wanted a mac I would buy a mac.

There was a post on here a few months ago from a former MS engineer talking about how a large part of MS design team were all MAC users.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by temeritatis »

causality0 wrote: post #53
muststopmyths wrote: post #17

As a 25+ year user of windows none of this stuff bothers me. What ticks me off is just the abysmal quality of windows 11 compared to the past. It’s like no one working on it has any pride in their job Example: - hate the new notification area. The action center was so much better - dumb stuff like a window update notification that shows a c# class name instead of windows update - clicking said notification does not b…

I still don't understand what kind of masochist wants all their windows to be grouped together with no labels so you have no idea what you were working on until you open it again and have to click multiple times. Thirty years of windows and there's still no setting I can tick to make the taskbar adjust automatically to the number of things I have open? If I have nothing open, hide it. If I have twenty different windo…

This! Why would you at LEAST not give the option? It's such a central piece of the whole OS. We interact with windows ALL the time. I'm getting too old for this crap LOL.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by UweSchmidt »

muststopmyths wrote: post #17

As a 25+ year user of windows none of this stuff bothers me. What ticks me off is just the abysmal quality of windows 11 compared to the past. It’s like no one working on it has any pride in their job Example: - hate the new notification area. The action center was so much better - dumb stuff like a window update notification that shows a c# class name instead of windows update - clicking said notification does not b…

It's like the rust on US Navy ships that was discussed on HN a few days ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34196925). Cosmetic issues hint at more serious problems elsewhere.
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