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US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Probably the most interesting part of this is if states don’t integrate by 2027 they will no longer be eligible for the Visa Waiver Program (VWP). That adds a lot of friction for citizens of that state to travel to the U.S. for any reason.

Heh, the VWP already has a tiny bit of friction built in - you need a credit card to complete the application For the ESTA.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean USA won't misuse this data?

We have had the Five Eyes and ECHELON for decades. Since before the Snowden revelations. How is this different? They don’t spy on their own citizens but they exchange info with the other spy agencies, so…

It's different in that it doesn't require misuse to get certain data about citizens.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Saddest is that in order to fight tax avoidance, when an European creates an account in an European bank you need to sign a separate statement that you are not an american citizen. I am not sure if they share data only of US citizens (or those with two citizenships), or all... but I also doubt that americans have to sign a document where they admit if they have a second citizenship in one of EU states. It feels very one sided.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is it really? The EU can just respond with: "no". And while that would hurt the economy of the EU it would also hurt the economy of the US. I do not really see any reason for the EU to say yes to this unless the EU gets something in return.

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Did Germany own the pipeline? A cursory search indicates that it was owned by the hostile Russian government unless I am mistaken?

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Europeans can trust the US government to keep this data as secure as they keep data on Americans https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chine...

or more recently https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2022/afghanistan-biometrie

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Starting from WWI western world is moving from what was basically complete freedom of movement to a corral. Think the best response would be something in line of go fuck yourself. No visa waiver - be my guest and have your tourism industry go belly up. Once tourism industry goes economic cooperation might eventually follow. Maybe this will teach our masters a bit. P.S. Being originally from USSR freedom of movement w…

> No visa waiver - be my guest and have your tourism industry go belly up. Unfortunately for your plan, Yellowstone will still be Yellowstone, and New York will still be New York. I agree with your attitude, but this "well, let them hang themselves" attitude just means the US ends up with the money and the data (via a slower path). A lack of visa waiver won't significantly negate tourism; there are a lot of attractio…

The attraction density in europe is very much higher.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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( Which it already has, just not officially. )

Exactly, there is no question that this is already in some FAANG data center in one way or another, which is the same as in possession of the US gov. They just want to formalize the deal.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't been back there since 2007 and have no intention to ever go back there. I missed a couple of funerals of friends because of that but the typical 'welcome' (I use the term loosely) afforded by DHS to visitors to the USA has persuaded me that I have better things to do with my life. The decision not to re-visit was made somewhere between the point where my shoes were confiscated because they might be used as…

> the time when I spent 6 hours on a bridge trying to get into Canada because they could not imagine a person carrying a Dutch passport had a legitimate interest in crossing the border into Canada. The US doesn’t operate Canadian border control?

They checked outbound as well at that time, not sure if that is still the case.
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