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US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

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Am I the only one that doesn't really consider "fingerprints and facial images" to be biometric data? When I think "biometric", I think hair samples, DNA, blood type, even though I know fingerprints and eye color are technically biometric.

Its easier for someone to obtain and identify your DNA than it is your fingertips or even your face. Just think of how much you leave around all the time. If that's all on records with facial images, your face is certainly an identifiable metric of your biology.

the shift from paper to digital, has ironicly, removed a method of obtaining samples.

its amazing what you can find with HPLC and a gas chromatograph.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

#33

I sincerely hope that the EU will give the appropriate but unprintable response to this request. At the time the biometric data was first collected plenty of people warned about this exact thing and we were repeatedly assured that it would never happen. Let's see if that is still true today. Never is such a long time...

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I have no interest in visiting the USA. It hasn't been "the land of the free" for a long time now.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

#36
post #16

Starting from WWI western world is moving from what was basically complete freedom of movement to a corral. Think the best response would be something in line of go fuck yourself. No visa waiver - be my guest and have your tourism industry go belly up. Once tourism industry goes economic cooperation might eventually follow. Maybe this will teach our masters a bit. P.S. Being originally from USSR freedom of movement w…

I hope we see some strong posturing from EU leaders. It seems like Europe is trying at least to fight in the right direction on this, while the anglosphere slowly becomes another version of China.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

#37
post #25

How would the US react to the same request from EU's police? Would they give direct access to their people's biometric data? Conversely, what would the EU do if that same request came from another nation instead of the USA? What about Brazil, Japan, China?

I know those are all rethorical questions, but for any anglophiles here:

The answer to all these questions would be hard "No.", possibly followed by sanctions for even daring to ask them.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

#38
post #25

How would the US react to the same request from EU's police? Would they give direct access to their people's biometric data? Conversely, what would the EU do if that same request came from another nation instead of the USA? What about Brazil, Japan, China?

Given the US has army bases all in and around Europe, more than any European country, I bet the US wouldn't comply.

It's rarely talked about, but you gotta imagine, the fact the US controls most of the land and sea is a big factor in how diplomatic issues are resolved.

I don't think this is a great thing, btw.

Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]

#39
post #5

Am I the only one that doesn't really consider "fingerprints and facial images" to be biometric data? When I think "biometric", I think hair samples, DNA, blood type, even though I know fingerprints and eye color are technically biometric.

Whose DNA do they have though? Mine or my twin's?
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