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Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by usui »

Hamuko wrote: post #81
usui wrote: post #16

> So I pirate the movie (please don't arrest me, it's google's fault) I really like the frank tone of the article and I wish people in general would just write unabashedly more often when it comes to stuff like this. Writers online love to dance around the idea of "pirating" their digital goods when communicating on the topic: "Ooh my 'friend' may or may not have downloaded 'xyz' movie from 'abc' website, but I don't…

> spytify automatically records mp3 files with metadata tags while you personally use Spotify I prefer pirating my music off YouTube. yt-dlp -f bestaudio https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=XXX This nets you a bunch of *.webm files with Opus data inside them. YouTube's bestaudio is usually about 130 kbs Opus, which should be close to transparent. You can then use mkvextract to turn them into more usable *.opus fi…

Isn't the second extraction unnecessary? I just tried this command and it worked, with metadata

yt-dlp --output "%(upload_date)s ---- %(artist)s --- %(title)s.%(ext)s" --add-metadata --embed-thumbnail --audio-format opus --format bestaudio --remux-video opus "https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0oAAlssVwEw"

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by jsnell »

silisili wrote: post #102
di4na wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they are not. The courts have been swift and merciless on this shit for music, video and similar things. Google may seem big but they do depends on the law still.

In the current system where Google plays lame duck, sure. But all G has to do is say 'yeah if you want us to feature your content, you must agree to X' With 90% of the search market, half of phones, and who knows what percentage of the smartTV market, they could institute a death sentence to those they wanted to. IF they wanted to.

So just to be clear, you're suggesting that Google use threats of blocking content providers from their other products, to strong-arm them into better licensing terms?

There's a reason they don't do that, in any business. How do you think e.g. anti-trust regulators would feel about that?

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by bo1024 »

choeger wrote: post #44

I said it before, but I'll repeat myself: For digital possessions, we need a clearing house. Everyone offering music, videos, etc. for sale or long-term rent, needs to register a digital copy in a standardized format with said clearing house. Every sale has to be registered there as well. Whenever the seller disables DRM or does locks out the buyer in any other way (not supporting new or old devices, closing down acc…

I like this idea, and after copyright expires[1], the clearing house should also seed the work as a torrent for all to access.

[1] While we're dreaming, make copyright 20 years.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by vladvasiliu »

mindcrime wrote: post #84
gleenn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question, what's the difference between a pricing and service problem?

Here's an example: I believe in supporting those who create media, and don't mind at all paying for streaming services that provide quality content for a fair price. As such, I happily subscribe to Amazon Prime (with several "add on" channels), Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, and HBO Max. Then one day I decided, "hell, I think Peacock TV has some stuff I might want to watch." So I signed up for a paid account, like any other…

But that's the case with the others, too. I'm not familiar with HBO, Disney and Hulu, but Prime and Netflix don't allow you to watch high-def content on Linux.

Hell, even on Windows with their app, Prime won't let you watch more that HD. For UHD, you need their stick or some other device. [0]

Netflix supports UHD on computers, but only on some browsers, of which Chrome is not one [1].

But, to your point about Peacock, at least they do work on Linux, as in you'll get some sort of image.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=...

[1] https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by artogahr »

anonzzzies wrote: post #54

We need a z-lib for movies, shows and music. Revive bittorrent (yes, i know it still exists but it simply doesn't have much content; not many people sharing/seeding anything but blockbusters) or, make a better bittorrent.

I wouldn't say "it doesn't have much content". 95% of the time I can find what I look from first try just using 1337x.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by notpushkin »

BbzzbB wrote: post #116
yellow_lead wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. But when I moved to Taiwan, I tried to switch my payment location to get regional pricing and they refuse to accept my Taiwan debit card. Now I pirate music or use Vanced (YouTube).

Works both ways tho. I remade my Tinder account from the Vietnamese phone number I had, have used my Canadian credit card and changed my account's phone to my Canadian one (ported to VoIP) after 3-4 weeks, but I still get billed in động for their top subscription. You could remake your Spotify account. Alternatively, make a family account and share it with 5 more members. Works out to just 3$/month (Canadian!) for us…

It would work. But it would still be piracy: their sublicense of content to you is likely conditional on you not doing any shenanigans to get another region's pricing.

So use it if you want to get recommendations, or don't want to bother managing your library, or want to give some pennies on a dollar to the actual artists. But remember, you're still a pirate. Be proud of it. Yarr!

IANAL

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by onehair »

helij wrote: post #74
friend_and_foe wrote: post #32

I am proud to say I don't use a single google service, and haven't in years. Now, if someone sends me a YouTube link, I watch it (in an invidious instance, of course) and I use some metasearch engines which rely on google to a large degree, hut I don't have a google account, I use no google services, have no google applications installed anywhere. The same applies to Meta and Microsoft as well, and some others. I hav…

I applaud you. I do my best as well using Linux whenever I can and having all my email on Zoho. I struggle with finding a solution for sharing photos via mobile. The whole family is in Apple ecosystem. I feel that if I don't want to spend enormous amount of time on setting up, securing and maintaining systems that I need to use big names solutions.

I use Filerun, self-hosted, pretty easy to setup

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by bo1024 »

jspaetzel wrote: post #92
choeger wrote: post #44

I said it before, but I'll repeat myself: For digital possessions, we need a clearing house. Everyone offering music, videos, etc. for sale or long-term rent, needs to register a digital copy in a standardized format with said clearing house. Every sale has to be registered there as well. Whenever the seller disables DRM or does locks out the buyer in any other way (not supporting new or old devices, closing down acc…

This isn't the problem, it would actually make this problem worse. The issue here is long-term device support which google is negligent about.. take away their vendor lock in and the whole platform stops making financial sense at any level of quality.

Are you saying that selling music/movies/ebooks/etc doesn't make financial sense without DRM and control? What about the history of vinyl, CDs, DVDs, Blu-Rays, bandcamp, DRM-free ebooks, GOG games, etc?

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by [deleted] »

ehsankia wrote: post #128
silisili wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the current system where Google plays lame duck, sure. But all G has to do is say 'yeah if you want us to feature your content, you must agree to X' With 90% of the search market, half of phones, and who knows what percentage of the smartTV market, they could institute a death sentence to those they wanted to. IF they wanted to.

"How dare Google use their market dominance to do X" but also "Why doesn't Google use their market dominance to do X"

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Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by bardan »

usui wrote: post #16

> So I pirate the movie (please don't arrest me, it's google's fault) I really like the frank tone of the article and I wish people in general would just write unabashedly more often when it comes to stuff like this. Writers online love to dance around the idea of "pirating" their digital goods when communicating on the topic: "Ooh my 'friend' may or may not have downloaded 'xyz' movie from 'abc' website, but I don't…

Unless you are buying physical media, tbe only way you can actually own something today is to pirate it.
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