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Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by yellow_lead »

usui wrote: post #16

> So I pirate the movie (please don't arrest me, it's google's fault) I really like the frank tone of the article and I wish people in general would just write unabashedly more often when it comes to stuff like this. Writers online love to dance around the idea of "pirating" their digital goods when communicating on the topic: "Ooh my 'friend' may or may not have downloaded 'xyz' movie from 'abc' website, but I don't…

Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. But when I moved to Taiwan, I tried to switch my payment location to get regional pricing and they refuse to accept my Taiwan debit card. Now I pirate music or use Vanced (YouTube).

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by midoridensha »

halfbrite wrote: post #12

> She has a copy of it I got on google play for her which she can play on her tablet. > So I pirate the movie (please don't arrest me, it's google's fault). Is it pirated if you already own a legally valid license? How about rips of blu-rays you own, which you solely use and do not intend to share? Is that pirating or using your legally owned product on a different medium?

>Is it pirated if you already own a legally valid license?

I imagine it depends on who you talk to. If you talk to the company lawyers, they'll say it's illegal and you need to pay up. If you talk to a different lawyer that believes in better IP rights, they'll tell you it's not illegal but hasn't been tested in a court of law.

Ultimately, the only way to know if something is illegal, in the US, is to do the possibly-illegal act, then get yourself sued for it (or worse, arrested, since some IP violations can be prosecuted criminally), so that it can be decided in a court of law whether it's actually illegal or not. Once a court precedent has been set, then we know if something is truly illegal or not. Though this can change if another case ends up with the court (usually a higher court) throwing out the precedent.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by aulin »

Some time ago I wanted to download a couple episodes of a Netflix series as I had to spend some time offline. Apparently they don't have an app for macos, and their recommended browser Safari doesn't support download. So I couldn't download what I paid for on the only device of mine where it made sense to do it.

Spent way too much time trying to figure out how to solve it... pirated it in the end.

It's amazing how they still cannot understand that all this DRM and antipiracy bullshit does is annoy their paying customers.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by silisili »

indrora wrote: post #9

The issue here isn't that it's Google, it's that Google is doing what they're told to do. Movie and music licensing has been absolutely destroyed recently and the hoops that you have to agree to are becoming untenable. Recently, I mentioned to a band it was sad they pulled their music off Spotify. Puzzled, they were not even aware that the licensing was pulled, and they had to go yell at their record label (who was u…

With all due respect, I feel like Google is large enough to refuse to be told what to do. If they really cared...

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by causi »

cyco130 wrote: post #15
navanchauhan wrote: post #3

> The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates. I know this quote gets thrown around whenever we talk about piracy, but there is a reason it resonates so well with everyone. I might have multiple streaming subscriptions and I still occasionally get blu-rays and DVDs, but I still prefer m…

I've known more than one music studio owner in the past who used a cracked Cubase despite owning a legal license because their anti-privacy dongles created lots of compatibility problems. The pirated copy simply worked better.

Yep. I've worked in places that paid Allen Bradley tens of thousands of dollars a year but actually only used a pirate copy someone had downloaded in 2004.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by bobsmooth »

yellow_lead wrote: post #17

Tablets and Android don't mix well. On an Android phone, you use it every day, so your auth doesn't get stale and everything stays up to date. On a tablet, if you leave it off for a few days or longer, turning it on prompts a bunch of updates and reauthentication. Also, the boot process is pretty slow, and most tablets I've tried are pretty slow in general (responsiveness). I think they need to de-bloat Android, espe…

More importantly, Android tablets let your trivially install bittorrent clients.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by yellow_lead »

bobsmooth wrote: post #26
yellow_lead wrote: post #17

Tablets and Android don't mix well. On an Android phone, you use it every day, so your auth doesn't get stale and everything stays up to date. On a tablet, if you leave it off for a few days or longer, turning it on prompts a bunch of updates and reauthentication. Also, the boot process is pretty slow, and most tablets I've tried are pretty slow in general (responsiveness). I think they need to de-bloat Android, espe…

More importantly, Android tablets let your trivially install bittorrent clients.

Yep, and I love android for that as well as sideloading/root.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by gleenn »

gundamdoubleO wrote: post #10

I'm always reminded of Gabe Newell's quote on piracy[1]: >Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem And by in large I still agree with it. For me I've only ever turned to piracy when the legitimate service has become a complete mess of red tape and user frustration. [1] https://www.escapistmagazine.com/valves-gabe-newell-says-pir...

Honest question, what's the difference between a pricing and service problem?

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by m1117 »

It's also ridiculous how I pay for netflix, but during traveling in asia I had to use VPN to watch it. So idiotic. I should just do the same thing and not to pay.
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