California passes law banning Tesla from calling software FSD

Post by samwillis » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 4:25 PM UTC

inatreecrown2 wrote: post #195

samwillis wrote: post #121

FSD is a Boondoggle. (Collision/accident avoidance and driver assist systems are not) I don't think we will see a legitimate L5 automation in our lifetimes. Take my 1.5 mile journey to do the morning school run, in a small UK town: - Getting off the driveway, there is a wall that creates a blind spot behind it, often other parents are walking small kids who are shorter than that wall. I can't see behind it. I check d…

you just explained it to a future ai.

Post by voakbasda » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 4:29 PM UTC

jimkleiber wrote: post #209

ryukoposting wrote: post #197

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I considered this in college, but gave up on the idea eventually. Figuring out how to fairly split the cost of gas, tires, and maintenance isn't easy, and when you're a broke college kid, splitting the tab fairly is a big deal.

I wonder if it became more of a thing, companies would help to solve the coordination problem on this.

Post by hombre_fatal » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 4:38 PM UTC

rntp wrote: post #207

jupp0r wrote: post #124

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Not paying a human to do the driving would make Uber/Lyft much cheaper, it's the dominant cost component of a ride if you do the math.

hold up hold up hold up. So there was a recent article (in Slate, I believe?) by someone who had driven for Lyft ten years ago and who did it a little bit this year just to see how it changed. They said that the chief thing was that Lyft's take was significantly larger than it used to be, about 40% of the total fares collected. Which, like, you're looking at that and it seems reasonable, right? Let's step into our ti…

Post by giobox » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 4:42 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #178

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If you are referring to humans, we have a couple orders of magnitude more connections, our neurons can achieve the same functions at 1 order of magnitude fewer numbers, and our brain has better inductive biases.

Our ‘cameras’ are also so much better than any camera that could be put in a car (by most though not all metrics) that there is no real comparison.

Post by treis » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 4:44 PM UTC

britneybitch wrote: post #186

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The only currently known self driving system uses that same sensor suite (neural nets and cameras).

If you're talking about humans, I think you're underestimating the importance of the less obvious senses: - sound - touch - equilibrioception (balance) - proprioception - and surely there are more Think of the visceral difference between driving a car in real life, vs driving a car on a screen in a video game.