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Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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Any ideas why these prosecutions are moving forward so fast? Usually this stuff takes forever as evidence is carefully gathered. Curious if anyone has any insights here.

Because there is an administration in power that is more willing to prioritize prosecuting financial crimes.

Not necessarily disuputing this, but do you have anything to back up this claim?

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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I think while the casting of SBF character would be hilarious, the casting of the Caroline Ellison character would take it over the top.

I mean they're pretty much Gwart and the rest of the stallions.

Thanks for that - now I can't unsee that!

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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My guess is she will get 10. 30 for the crimes, less 10 for being a first time offender and not the ring leader and less 10 for cooperation and contrition.

And gets out after 5 years for “good behavior”.

This is federal so it is statutory at 54 days per year max.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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Elizabeth did use the money for personal gain, to sponsor an extremely lavish lifestyle and billing luxury home rental expenses,chartered flights, security details and private investigators to the Theranos account. Sunny Balwani, otoh, didn't benefit, wasn't the CEO, didn't make most of the false statements and got a heavier sentence.

She was found not guilty of defrauding patients. He was guilty on all accounts.

It's difficult for me to see how Balwani was defrauding patients but Holmes wasn't.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is she will get 10. 30 for the crimes, less 10 for being a first time offender and not the ring leader and less 10 for cooperation and contrition.

And gets out after 5 years for “good behavior”.

Federal sentences come with a maximum of 54 days per year [1] of good time credit, and there is no parole when serving federal time. This all but guarantees that a 10 year sentence will result in 102 months of incarceration and release no earlier than that.

[1] https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/02/11/2022-02...

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#156

Nothing here happened on a blockchain. If it had there wouldn't have been problems. This is a typical finance market scam.

1. A bunch of it happened "on the blockchain"

2. You can't entirely separate a thing from its effects, the effects of cryptocurrency have been to enable this massive ecosystem of frauds and scams. That may not have been the initial intent, but it's certainly a large part of the outcome.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#157

Any ideas why these prosecutions are moving forward so fast? Usually this stuff takes forever as evidence is carefully gathered. Curious if anyone has any insights here.

Since everybody else is guessing, I'll guess because it's politically inconvenient for powerful people and they'd like this to be wrapped up next year and keep the investigation as quick and narrow as possible.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#158

Curious to see if they also strike a deal with Nishad Singh. He was the director of engineering at FTX that supposedly authored the code that exempted Alameda from liquidation.

How many deals do they need? I'm afraid of prosecutors cutting too many deals, being too lenient on the guilty, just to make their jobs easier - making practically certain cases 1% more certain in exchange for not punishing appropriately.

I think it's good to get one or two insiders - Ellison and Wang seem ideal. Why does the state need more?

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#159

What about the previous CEO of Alameda, Sam Trabucco? Caroline only took over recently, I haven't heard anything about his legal standing at this point.

I was wondering about Trabucco as well. His name is nowhere to be seen, but he was leading Alameda together with Caroline up until last summer.

If SBF is also going for plea bargain, will various government institutions ask from him to get some dirt on Tether (and on Binance)? Might be that they are more interested in campaign financing.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#160

Any ideas why these prosecutions are moving forward so fast? Usually this stuff takes forever as evidence is carefully gathered. Curious if anyone has any insights here.

Because there is an administration in power that is more willing to prioritize prosecuting financial crimes.

And the previous administration never prosecuted any financial crimes, especially not Elizabth Holmes, right?

"In June 2018, Theranos announced that Holmes was stepping down as CEO. On the same day, the Department of Justice announced that a federal grand jury had charged Holmes, along with Balwani, with nine counts of wire fraud and two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud." [0]

[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/theranos-founder-ceo-elizabe...

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