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Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#121

In previous discussions, I said there was a 0% chance she got some sort of deal. I was downvoted to hell, but this guilty plea shows how it works in real life, not TV. The deal is you cooperate voluntarily and the court is allowed to provide sentencing leniency. The only thing she gets is the prosecution agrees to tell the court she cooperated.

Why is she's out on bail if she has already plead guilty? What's the next step for her?

That’s part of “the deal” they struck.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#122

Any ideas why these prosecutions are moving forward so fast? Usually this stuff takes forever as evidence is carefully gathered. Curious if anyone has any insights here.

Because there is an administration in power that is more willing to prioritize prosecuting financial crimes.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#123
post #35

Does this cooperation mean that those fraudsters don't go to prison? The whole team knew about stealing billions of dollars of money, clearly there's more than 1 person (and more than 1 company's executives) that need prison time.

It doesn't say specifically but if there was a grant of immunity it would probably say so. More likely they are pleading guilty which usually gets a lesser sentence in exchange for full cooperation and no trial.

Well she’s agreed to plead guilty so she definitely wasn’t granted immunity...

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

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post #99

It's hard for me to fathom being so privileged and then essentially throwing away your life. I have no idea what they were thinking.

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given some of her tweets and blog posts it seems chronic stimulant abuse is what did their thinking for them.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#125

It's hard for me to fathom being so privileged and then essentially throwing away your life. I have no idea what they were thinking.

I really hope Caroline and Gary go to prison too. It would be a slap in the face if they got some absurd plea deal where they didn't have to go to jail if they testified against Sam.

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Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#127

It's hard for me to fathom being so privileged and then essentially throwing away your life. I have no idea what they were thinking.

it's exactly because they're so privileged. If you ever see posh people being arrested for incredibly stupid white collar crime it's usually because they live on the assumption that nothing is ever so serious that someone can't bail you out of.

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Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#128

It's hard for me to fathom being so privileged and then essentially throwing away your life. I have no idea what they were thinking.

It's what happens when smart, privileged people abuse uppers. Rather than break into a truck to steal tools they just go on white collar crime sprees.

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#129

Too bad HBO's Silicon Valley isn't still going. The writers would have had a field day.

I think the actual crypto story lines are too preposterous to be funny. :)

I think it would make a good bighead storyline

Re: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang are cooperating in the criminal case against SBF

#130

It's hard for me to fathom being so privileged and then essentially throwing away your life. I have no idea what they were thinking.

I really hope Caroline and Gary go to prison too. It would be a slap in the face if they got some absurd plea deal where they didn't have to go to jail if they testified against Sam.

Since both are talking, I assume their deal isn't that great. My understanding is that you only get those out-of-jail-free cards if there's no other way to convict and I don't see that being the case here in any way.

On the other hand, great lawyers and connections might still make something out of it.

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