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Post by shadowgovt »

chasil wrote: post #346
computerex wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile others have been warning about his lunacy for years and up till recently have faced nothing but backlash from his internet armies. It just feels so good to see comments like yours. It's out in the open now, everyone now knows he is a greedy charlatan.

I really don't know who he is. I see him make "pedo" commentary and I cringe, but reusable rockets are an enormous achievement. I don't see any compelling reason to buy an electric car, but his execution of the Twitter buyout has revealed biased regulation in the extreme, perhaps by illegal proxy from the FBI. These are important questions, and he has admitted that he is under stress and not completely stable. I'm no…

> the Twitter buyout has revealed biased regulation in the extreme, perhaps by illegal proxy from the FBI.

I haven't seen this; what does it refer to?

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Post by CoastalCoder »

imwillofficial wrote: post #621

Holy crap, a poll to see if Elon stays running twitter. A bold move.

If I'm being really skeptical, I see two outs here:

(1) Musk could lie about the results. (I don't know much about Twitter polls, but when I looked at that one, I didn't see a running tally.)

(2) He owns the company. So he could still get his way without being CEO (AFAIK).

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by tremon »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #463
the_duke wrote: post #367

No one seems to have mentioned the really interesting aspect here: Twitter must be bleeding DAUs. There are other indicators too. After the takeover they dropped the login wall, but it is back, and way more aggressive than before. You can't even scroll down to see more tweets now, or view replies. The ads are also really weird and odd. Either their ad targeting system is broken, or they just lost so many advertisers…

> Twitter must be bleeding DAUs Secondary indicators seems to indicate DAU is surging. I don't know why you'd think it would drop from controversy this kind of shit is what people live on twitter for. Real question is is it sustainable and can they actually monetize it. > The ads are also really weird and odd. Twitter has always been an embarrassment in terms of targeted ads.

Secondary indicators like the number of times Twitter is mentioned on HN, or in the news in general?

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Post by xupybd »

minimaxir wrote: post #545
britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Hijacking top comment to note Elon Musk has commented: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616426114932737 > Paul’s account will be restored shortly And https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616863673208832 > Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.

> Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.

I'm not sure a vote is the best option but it doesn't solve the problem either. There needs to be due process. You can't bring out a new policy and 5 mins later start banning accounts that have tweets older than the policy that also violate the policy.

Elon is big on move fast and break things but I think he is going to hard and will destroy Twitter if he continues at this pace.

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Post by sph »

jdiez17 wrote: post #547

Musk just tweeted that @paulg will be restored shortly: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046164261149327... And “Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.” https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046168636732088... Edit: and now he’s asking if he should step down https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046176439731240...

I honestly want him to stay because I enjoy the absolute shit show, I'm gonna be honest. It is interesting to see how the world would react if Twitter went in flames over a couple weeks.

The news and corporate PR world are scared out of their mind, and I want to see the whole thing implode, even if for a little while. Same with the Musk cult of personality.

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Post by meepmorp »

dm319 wrote: post #497
the_duke wrote: post #367

No one seems to have mentioned the really interesting aspect here: Twitter must be bleeding DAUs. There are other indicators too. After the takeover they dropped the login wall, but it is back, and way more aggressive than before. You can't even scroll down to see more tweets now, or view replies. The ads are also really weird and odd. Either their ad targeting system is broken, or they just lost so many advertisers…

Wasn't there something about Elon trying to sell Twitter stock privately? I think in the financial times. They have probably lost a lot of advertisers, and Elon might be in financial trouble.

Not just sell stock, but sell it at the meme-o-rific $54.20 price he paid. Just unbelievable.

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Post by srrr »

OJFord wrote: post #635
srrr wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The European Union Digital Markets Act, coming into effect in May 2023, explicitly forbids such behavior. (If twitter is classified as a "gatekeeper".) https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-... Example of the “don'ts” - Gatekeeper platforms may no longer: - treat services and products offered by the gatekeeper itself more favourably in ranking than similar services or products offered by third p…

Odd use of 'gatekeeper' isn't it? Even if I would call this 'gatekeeping behaviour' (I don't think it is, the way that's usually used around here at least? Not to say that it isn't 'misbehaviour') surely the thing that's objected to really is gatekeep ing by x platforms, where x is 'monopoly' or 'dominant' or something?

I think the term gatekeeper makes more sense if applied to companies like Apple, Google, Microsoft & Co, with their search engines, maps, app stores, operating systems, browsers ... all these are gateways to "the digital market". Twitter might be to small and comparatively niche to be classified as a gatekeeper. There does not seem to be an exact definition that I could find. But social networks as a category and companies like Meta/Facebook are listed as gatekeepers.

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Post by ssnistfajen »

IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #604
meshugga wrote: post #104

This is amazing. He basically said, he'd return if elon comes around, and wishes him the best. And just said "my mastodon is on my website". No violation of those new "TOS" of any kind. https://mas.to/@paulg seems to have been hugged to death already :)

Paul was a big cheerleader for Elon. Touted his “skills” at Tesla & SpaceX. Elon kicks him off, because Dear Leader will not be criticized. Meanwhile Tesla is pile driving into the ground. I’m waiting for the FTC & the EU to weigh in on ALL of this puerile behavior by sham Tony Stark.

He was still giving Elon platitudes in his HN comment in the previous thread. For a person with so much wealth and influence, Elon is way too thin-skinned.
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