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#622

Elon keeping his promise from Nov 9: Please note that Twitter will do lots of dumb things in coming months. We will keep what works & change what doesn’t. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590384919829962752

I believe the first line. I'm not convinced about the second...

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post #375

Twitter is not an institution. It is not a utility. People can just leave and go to another website. It will take time for a new website or websites to figure things out at scale, both technologically and socially. But people were patient with twitter in the fail whale days and I assume they'll be patient with another service in the future. This guy is running twitter like it's his personal website. Which, it is. But…

It is kind of an institution, it really has been a de facto town square of the internet in a way that no other social media platform ever was. But it could die. The network effect works both ways, and if big accounts emigrate it's in real trouble.

And yet, lots of people in pre-Musk times said "Twitter is not a government body, it's a private company, it can ban whoever it wants to ban". Now these people are leaving in droves.

I hope it's a good lesson for everybody that a private company can't be a de facto town square. An internet town square must be based on open protocols and, like an IRL town square, paid with taxpayers money. Otherwise, we're doomed to have this story repeated again and again.

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post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there was always an emperor

No, in the past there was a committee. There is zero evidence that the previous CEO of Twitter personally judged who was and who was not to be banned.

The previous CEO of Twitter barely did any work. It was frequent to hear chickens and birds in the background of Jack's video calls.

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Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Yeah, well, he also said "I'm not leaving Twitter." and nobody tells Elon whether they're leaving or not. That's Elon's call to make and his alone.

It appears that he was wrong about that first bit though.

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No, it's not clearly a violation. From Elon Musk: > Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme. That was very casual and not at all an example of relentless advertising for competitors. It's also extremely dubious that PG was trying to evade Twitter enforcement.

>No, it's not clearly a violation. From Elon Musk:

>> Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme.

Also, something Elon Musk says isn't policy, even when he owns Twitter.

The policy specifically talks about linking out and usernames, nothing about generally "promoting other platforms".

Musk-defenders are getting absurd here.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

#627

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

I would be willing to bet that Elon follows pg... and he probably took personal offense to him leaving.

"If I can't have you I'll destroy you".

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post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

I use Twitter, and most users are totally baffled, even more than they have been before with prior bans. Musk just keeps finding new ways to alienate users. It was one thing to ban links to Mastodon, but to Instagram and Facebook and link tree? That's going to piss off a lot of people...

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post #541

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From official Twitter support: > We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter. > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, T…

Musk seems to be indicating that banning it was a mistake: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616426114932737

Looks like it’s back up, but they dumped his followers.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From official Twitter support: > We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter. > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, T…

Musk seems to be indicating that banning it was a mistake: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616426114932737

"I am sorry, I didn't know so many of you liked Paul Graham. I can reinstate him. Please like me."
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