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Post by forgetfulness »

Ferrotin wrote: post #14

Possibly malicious enforcement by Twitter staff in light of https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604593057676300288 “Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme”

Malicious? Elon Musk wants employees to have utmost loyalty to him, what's malicious to risk taking the fall by clicking the ban button on the rich, famous and powerful to safeguard the vision of the visionary CEO? This was fulfillment of orders beyond the call of duty.

Graham was a threat to the Master, what's a loyal servant to do?

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Post by dym_sh »

sytelus wrote: post #282
AJ007 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finally signed up, seems fine. I think the big problem is if the servers will be able to handle the volume.

The whole server concept is a disaster, IMO. There is no search box for server. There is no information on how to create a server (at least on landing page). A lot of servers require "manual review". Many are "full". I don't know which one of these servers will even survive over time. I use Twitter as my "log" of interesting content and ideas. I rather not put content on server managed by a dude who can be run over b…

tbf same bus-factor applies to everything you collect

but have you tried simply using bookmarks in your browser — full control, full responsibility

also if you on the level of creating and maintaining your own server — its all open source

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Post by fzeroracer »

SilverBirch wrote: post #134

There's kind of three options here: * Elon is personally policing twitter, and has banned PG in a fit of pique, despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup * Twitter's staff are just being crazy over the top with bannings - this might actually be the most likely. It's kind of obvious that Twitter has some automated systems that suspend accounts when they get mass reported, and some people with a sense of…

Musk literally held a poll over unsuspending the journalists that were banned (which failed twice, he had to delete it once and retry it and still failed to get what he wanted), so it's the first option. He's the head honcho telling people what to do.

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Post by jacquesm »

spoonjim wrote: post #308
mvkel wrote: post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

Omission of TikTok is because the CCP has Tesla by the short and curlies

That's my reading as well.

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Post by zug_zug »

jamesredd wrote: post #268
zug_zug wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity I notice a handful of Hn users seem pretty frustrated at pg to the point of sticking a jab in whenever his name is mentioned. Obviously you can only speak for yourself, but I’m curious if there’s a common thread I’m not aware of leading to this personal bitterness?

I have nothing against pg, except for the fact that when he said something I found absurd I had to mute him on Twitter. I don’t find propagandist compelling at all and have no interest in reading the outcome of their thoughts.

So when you say propagandist does that mean he spreads lies on behalf of a government? Reading between the lines it sounds like you find him to be deliberately dishonest about something(s)?

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Post by chasil »

computerex wrote: post #226
echelon wrote: post #93

I was a pretty big Elon fan a year ago. SpaceX is/was a monumental achievement. He's gone insane. Suggesting Taiwan and Ukraine surrender, all this Twitter nonsense... I'm shorting TSLA to $50 on Monday.

Meanwhile others have been warning about his lunacy for years and up till recently have faced nothing but backlash from his internet armies. It just feels so good to see comments like yours. It's out in the open now, everyone now knows he is a greedy charlatan.

I really don't know who he is.

I see him make "pedo" commentary and I cringe, but reusable rockets are an enormous achievement. I don't see any compelling reason to buy an electric car, but his execution of the Twitter buyout has revealed biased regulation in the extreme, perhaps by illegal proxy from the FBI.

These are important questions, and he has admitted that he is under stress and not completely stable.

I'm not sure what to think.

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Post by djur »

starkd wrote: post #256
djur wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one good thing that's come out of Musk's ownership of Twitter is that we now have extensive public evidence that Twitter staff bent over backwards to maintain objective moderation standards even in the face of unprecedented challenges. The "leftist cabal" theories are thoroughly disproven now. And we see now the kind of actions that an actual ideological cabal would take if they controlled Twitter.

Matt Taibbi literally said the exact opposite of this.

The evidence he (and Bari Weiss) presented and his analysis of that evidence were not consistent with each other. Given the choice, I'm going to rely on the primary sources, not the guy who was handpicked to promote a particular agenda.

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Post by kitsune_ »

SilverBirch wrote: post #134

There's kind of three options here: * Elon is personally policing twitter, and has banned PG in a fit of pique, despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup * Twitter's staff are just being crazy over the top with bannings - this might actually be the most likely. It's kind of obvious that Twitter has some automated systems that suspend accounts when they get mass reported, and some people with a sense of…

Haven't we learned anything from the Trump era? People like you continue to give people like Musk the benefit of the doubt despite massive public evidence that we are long past the benefit of doubt stage.

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Post by Beltalowda »

threatofrain wrote: post #249
BryantD wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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No, it's not clearly a violation. From Elon Musk: > Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme. That was very casual and not at all an example of relentless advertising for competitors. It's also extremely dubious that PG was trying to evade Twitter enforcement.

He didn't just casually share a link to his site though; he said "you can find my Mastodon account on my site". That's basically just posting a link to your Mastodon account, but with an extra step.

Is the new policy bullshit? Sure. But clearly this is against the spirit of it.

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