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Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

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Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

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> Never tie your Google account to any other Google product. Google pretty much forces you to do so.

Yeah, either you'd get your gmail account banned because of something happened in google ads, or they ban you for having multiple accounts and trying to "circumvent their anti-abuse policy" or something. The only way to win this game is to not play it.

Or your mail simply never arrives.

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

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Honestly, the top comment is more concerning: https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/zndbku/tifu_by_accide... Account stolen. Obvious fraudulent charges. EA refuses to make it right. Customer rightfully disputes the charges. EA closes their account locking them out of an entire catalogue of content THEY HAD PAID for. This whole “you don’t really own digital content” ruse needs to be popped. A company shouldn’t be abl…

How do you feel about 999-year leases? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/999-year_lease

How about a 9000 year lease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_Brewery

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

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But by who? There’s nobody to hire for that role, because the role has been automated.

I have no idea if you're being serious, but of course code can be overridden and of course you can hire someone to override it. Google has apparently chosen not to.

Hiring someone to do a thing is the opposite of automating it.

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

#164

Honestly, the top comment is more concerning: https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/zndbku/tifu_by_accide... Account stolen. Obvious fraudulent charges. EA refuses to make it right. Customer rightfully disputes the charges. EA closes their account locking them out of an entire catalogue of content THEY HAD PAID for. This whole “you don’t really own digital content” ruse needs to be popped. A company shouldn’t be abl…

This is a use case that public blockchains could solve for us. Having a decentralized proof of digital rights ownership on a public blockchain could separate the content provider (Amazon / Google / EA) from the actual media they provide by storing it on IPFS or some other decentralized file store. There would need to be a lot of work done to make this happen and big companies would have to get on board. It doesn't se…

> big companies would have to get on board

Will never happen.

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

#165

To me, the issue with Google's products and services is that they're not willing to provide any human customer service to resolve the real issues. Now, of course, I understand that even Google can't reasonably be expected to provide free 24/7 customer support for the entire Internet. If they had a normal phone number available where anybody could reach a human at any time, every confused person would call them with i…

> they're not willing to provide any human customer service

They do: https://one.google.com/about/support

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

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Isn't this a great way to motivate users to respond by setting up throw-away accounts, with disposable forwarding emails and Privacy.com-generated credit card numbers? True, this is a multi-step process, but it also seems like something which could be automated.

My experience with those generated CC numbers has been poor. A lot of sites somehow recognize them and reject them.

I don't know if I'm having a false memory but it think someone some time ago commented here on a similar topic that they got banned on Google for using a virtual card

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

#167

Honestly, the top comment is more concerning: https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/zndbku/tifu_by_accide... Account stolen. Obvious fraudulent charges. EA refuses to make it right. Customer rightfully disputes the charges. EA closes their account locking them out of an entire catalogue of content THEY HAD PAID for. This whole “you don’t really own digital content” ruse needs to be popped. A company shouldn’t be abl…

This is a use case that public blockchains could solve for us. Having a decentralized proof of digital rights ownership on a public blockchain could separate the content provider (Amazon / Google / EA) from the actual media they provide by storing it on IPFS or some other decentralized file store. There would need to be a lot of work done to make this happen and big companies would have to get on board. It doesn't se…

Or we could just go back to license keys as proof of ownership. Blockchain doesn't really add anything but complexity here.

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

#168

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Of course permanently. But what’s unacceptable here is canceling the email account too.

> Of course permanently. Not if your motivation is avoiding the fraud the user just told you about. You'd investigate more. Definitely not "of course".

It still makes sense to ban, for the same reason insurance premiums go up even if your claim is no-fault. Your marginal value as a user is less than the cost of a single chargeback, ergo ban.

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

#169

Honestly, the top comment is more concerning: https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/zndbku/tifu_by_accide... Account stolen. Obvious fraudulent charges. EA refuses to make it right. Customer rightfully disputes the charges. EA closes their account locking them out of an entire catalogue of content THEY HAD PAID for. This whole “you don’t really own digital content” ruse needs to be popped. A company shouldn’t be abl…

How do you feel about 999-year leases? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/999-year_lease

That is a specified term so much better.

Re: Tell HN: Doing a chargeback against Google will get your account banned

#170

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No I don’t use Android on any device.

Some people wrote letters in 1980. That ain’t a defense of Ma Bell.

There are multiple email providers. There are multiple phone providers. You want to argue this is a duopoly? Ok. But it is demonstrably not a monopoly.
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