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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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I created a website that tracks his plane: www.wheresmusk.com.

what's the point? would you like someone making a website tracking you even if it was public information? simply pathetic

I don't like the idea of someone with a bunch of money bullying a fellow hacker.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#932

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af I don't see the point of blocking it on Twitter when it's readily available on any flight tracking platform.

Having it show up automatically on your twitter feed is different from have to know bout and intentionally use a tracking platform to look for a specific person's plane.

If you are nuts enough that you want to shoot that person's plane, motivation is there to click on a link you can find in a minute of searching on Google

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#933
post #728

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...is perhaps the hundred and fiftieth time I have read this (or a similar variant) nonsense of false analogy, already debunked explained and reexplained in hundreds of variants I am beginning to think that the people who parrot it are not even interested in its response (already said and reiterated hundreds of times in the last 12 hours)

Would it hurt to link then?

link? is literally the first line and the first link in the post above

> Worth remembering this is public information: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#934

I love it here. The guy who is building the worlds most advanced intercontinental ballistic missile and military delivery system, should not be upset about his real time location being public. Like what world are people living in here? It’s amazing elonjet has been public this long. This isn’t just about journalists or stalkers tracking him (and his family) it’s basically a national security issue. Grow up. The us is…

Every planes in the sky can be tracked: https://flightaware.com/live/map

Every ships on the seas can be tracked: https://www.marinetraffic.com/

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#935

ElonJet was opensource, I thought... someone need to host it somewhere else

The data is public, the bot is just scraping https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af

I know that the data is public, but it takes a bit of code to do what he did.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#936
post #879

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> Musk’s son, X Æ A-12 I heard that he gave his child a strange name, but... that is just something else. On topic: I don't see how a flight location could be shown to cause that event. If I told you that I was arriving somewhere at LAX at around 0900 could you find me?

Are you flying in on your own private jet and are you among the richest most well-known people in the world?

Sure. Now, what are the chances you can find me? Let's assume I decide to take a not-a-limo as my ride home though.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#937
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You should care about his costly trips. As an individual, he is wrecking the environment at a rate a thousandfold of the average person.

As an individual, he has probably had net positive environmental impact than the next 1m people combined.

> he has probably had net positive environmental impact than the next 1m people combined.

He probably could be this or that potentially

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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post #831

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Why has even HN comment field lowered to nothing but blind hate? Say what you want but the man has reformed rocket technology and jumpstarted the world's shift to electrical vehicles, both against all odds. Hate-takes like this are silly.

It’s not blind hate. People see the man for what he is, a douche bag and a charlatan, and are calling his behavior out. His luck in this world (and he has been incredibly lucky) is irrelevant.

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

This is the root of it all for me. I’m not against banning the account for doxxing Musk, as it would be fair to ban in other similar cases. That won’t stop me saying he’s a hypocrite for doing so. Does he feel so strongly about accounts doxxing “the libs?”

There's a number of valid arguments for why the plane tracker may not be doxxing, and a couple tenuous, but valid arguments for why to ban the plane tracker account.

But no matter how you slice it, this account (and it's owner's personal account) were targeted purely because they irked Musk, and he has given zero indication that he plans to enforce this rule for basically any other account.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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post #340

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Aircraft location data cannot be "delayed" for some very obvious public safety reasons. The FAA requires that every aircraft loudly announce itself at all times unless they're on the ground.

I can understand that this information must be real time for aircraft flight control purposes. Not sure what the laws, requirements or practices say about the entire universe knowing where any aircraft might be in real time. I mean, if a bad guy wanted to aim a SAM at any given aircraft and this data is live and real-time... Again, I don't know how this works in terms of the law. Opinions don't matter. What's the law…

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/... is a relevant FAA regulation.

US civilian aviation rules require that an on-craft transponder emit altitude and location information so that other craft can avoid collisions. Obviously, this makes aircraft more vulnerable to surface to air missiles. Thankfully, that's a vanishingly remote threat, so the FAA has decided that valuing collision avoidance over missile evasion is the correct set of priorities. I don't know how this would work in situations where surface to air missiles are a real threat, but I would guess military aircraft only follow civilian rules when it doesn't compromise their mission.

As far as "the entire universe knowing," I think the relevant legal principle at play is that there's no expectation of privacy associated with flying a private aircraft (for the reasons stated above). Airpsace is a shared, national security-sensitive resource, civilian regulators get to set the rules governing use.

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