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Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944
Guidelines say: “ anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.”
What’s intellectually gratifying about twitter/Musk drama?
The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.
It's not about providing info that he flies a lot, but about sharing his live location without consent. Imagine someone kept posting a tweet about your every trip - when you left, when and where you will arrive. Twitter TOS are one thing, but I'm quite sure such things break EU's GDPR laws as well.
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Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus
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it truly is bizarre how many fanboys came here to post irrelevant and incorrect information to defend Musk doing a big 180 on a supposed deeply held principle of his because he got personally upset about someone making him look childish.
I don’t think it’s crazy for Twitter to ban stuff like this. The damning part is just that it explicitly goes against the stuff Musk has repeatedly said!
Isn't Musk, or any other individual, allowed to change his mind? Many comments here seem to imply that a tweet sets your behavior in stone and any subsequent deviation is hypocrisy. He even changed Twitter's policy and specified that it's ok to share the information of where a person was, just not track their movements live. You can argue in favor or against the policy, but we expect people to change opinion because…
of course he can, but if the change is "you know I used to say unfettered 'free speech' was the most important thing in the world and lack of it was killing western society? I've changed my mind, I don't want a twitter account publishing where my private jet is" I'd expect him to have to actually say that out loud and expect him to get a lot of shit for having such weak principles.
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From the sounds of it its a bit more than just posting public flight data. He had people at airports tracking the plane as it was changing its flight code to prevent tracking. That goes beyond using public information and enters into stalking teritory, even if only in a fairy minor way. Not defending the ban, but the context is a bit more complex than posting something off of a public site onto twitter.
Not just that, but the owner of the account offered to take it down for a price. Feels like extortion.
To me it doesn't just feel like extortion, it straight up is extortion.
it truly is bizarre how many fanboys came here to post irrelevant and incorrect information to defend Musk doing a big 180 on a supposed deeply held principle of his because he got personally upset about someone making him look childish.
Dismissing people with a label to invalidate their argument is ad hominem and is an eternally weak counterargument.
it is nice to be reminded that I guess this isn't a uniquely low quality site, and that comments like yours were endemic on k5 and slashdot and usenet, too.
I of course wasn't dismissing anyone based on a label, I was dismising them based on their low quality posting:
> it truly is bizarre how many fanboys came here to post irrelevant and incorrect information to defend Musk
you're right I shouldn't discriminate, and I do also have disdain for the non-fanboys posting irrelevant and incorrect information
edit: verbosity
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The flight information that twitter account was using is publically available and required by law to BE public. https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zygg/twitter-bans-elon-mus... "Sweeney has been using sites such as ADS-B Exchange to track the movements of private jets blogging to celebrities, tech billionaires, and Russian oligarchs for years now. By law, the movement of these plans is publicly available information.…
This confuses the issue though. ICAO numbers change if your aircraft is enrolled in the PIA program, which Elon is. Sweeny was bypassing this by using people on the ground to circumvent this by watching the jet's movement and if an aircraft was going to takeoff that had an unknown ICAO number he'd have someone at the airport to figure out it was Elon's jet that had changed it's ICAO number. Your link will only be val…
Only through a manual process that sounds like it can take a month or so to complete.
Perhaps, in future, this could be solved with technology that automates generation/randomisation of Aircraft IDs, much like MAC addresses on phones and laptops are randomised to prevent tracking?
Next-generation ADS-B transponders could communicate with the FAA (or appropriate local authority) via satellite or mobile network to generate/request a new, random ID before every flight.
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I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.
A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?
Given he had no problem calling a random person a “pedo” knowing it would cause harassment, I’m going to go with “no.”