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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by asdajksah2123 »

pgodzin wrote: post #310

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense.

Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ChrisCinelli »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

This will escalate quickly. I wonder if we will end up having public data not more public

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by denlekke »

SXX wrote: post #298
Thorentis wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contesting the results of an election is entirely different to publishing location data with the intent to cause physical harm. Disputing election results is also part of the democratic process, even if you disagree with it, and should be encouraged. There is nothing in the public interesting concerned with stalking people.

Can you prove there were ever intent to cause physical harm?

I read much more intent to cause harm in Trump's Jan 6 tweets than I did in any of Jack Sweeney's

but intent is really difficult to prove which makes it a terrible metric for objective moderation

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by dkrich »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

What I’d make of it is a desperate attempt to conflate two completely different things (one of which to my knowledge isn’t even verified) in hopes of gaining sympathy for pulling the rug on an account without looking like a complete hypocrite. Dude is looking more and more like a pathological liar and sociopath by the minute.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by tlear »

memish wrote: post #173

We constantly hear about how the most mundane criticism on social media is inflicting harm, and words are violence and stochastic terrorism, and ChatGPT needs baby guardrails, but when there are literal death threats ( https://twitter.com/dataracer117/status/1519167734910619649 ) and physical proximity to kids ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 ) the very same people are suddenly dismissing any…

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by denlekke »

rnk wrote: post #49
cfpg wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, in the next hour, a journalist is going to get banned, a campaign will come up to get them unbanned, and Twitter will change the rule. We'll be fine.

More likely is Elon will post something that gives someone's location away and then they'll adjust it.

why adjust when they can just enforce the rules subjectively at will

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by Jeffwoo »

karmicthreat wrote: post #290
hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Could be true, could be a convenient lie. It's not like Elon is above the trust thermocline anymore.

"Jack Sweeney said the last time his bot tweeted anything was Dec. 12 "which is not last night, so I don’t get how that’s connected.”"

So not sure how Musk thinks it's related.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by [deleted] »

SXX wrote: post #21
mjn wrote: post #11

This appears to be the new policy: https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165959669354496

I wonder how does Elon expect any journalist to follow these rules? Big chunk of information from press is reporting on public figures location and sometimes this include reporting in real time.

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by chii »

mplewis wrote: post #278
nightowl_games wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How can you tell me... ? I'm not presenting this as fact but the argument is clearly that Musk's net effect on the global population is positive through his career choice and life's work, and that jetting around is necessary for him to complete this life's work.

The thing that makes me think twice about that argument is that Elon has just spent an enormous sum of money on a social media website that doesn’t seem to further the goals of materially improving the world.

> doesn’t seem to further the goals of materially improving the world.

why should that be a goal of his? I mean, unless you expect that just because he's rich, that he's obliged, how his enormous amount of money is spent is not something anyone else can critisize.

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