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"Free Speech Absolutism" is just another liberal boondoggle that they can endlessly smear their opponents with to attract voters.
Damn you really "owned the libs" with that 180
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I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.
A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?
I don’t think it’s crazy for Twitter to ban stuff like this. The damning part is just that it explicitly goes against the stuff Musk has repeatedly said!
It's definitely hard to figure out the logic where it's OK to ban someone for posting plane data because it might be misused for dangerous while it's bad evil censorship to ban the President while he's actively trying to overturn the results of a lawful election.
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> Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. It would appear, based on empirical evidence, that in practice everyone agrees with this point. That may count as mission success for those many people. Was free speech absolutism ever something Musk put on the table? The issue that Musk is addressing is Twitter's systemic suppression of right-wing p…
Why yes, he did, eg: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519036983137509376 Musk repeatedly said that his aim is to allow anything that's legal. He even promised not to ban this specific account: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_au...
But even if he was, one tweet isn't really much of a commitment. People throw out tweets they don't mean all the time. 140 characters isn't enough to lay out an ideological position. Running a company like twitter is a bit more serious - they can't moderate just based on interpretations of what Elon tweets. And they were never going to.
Although if he was committing to keeping the plane account around he is definitely didn't think that through.
While, yes, the data could have been used to track him down, but reposting it on twitter is not enabling anyone to stalk. Crimimals that would want to hunt down Elon or X, would definitely have specialists who can gather this and other data without some random twitter user
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I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.
A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?
IMHO Elon is causing controversy to keep Twitter relevant. Amongst his many skills, he's a showman. Every little thing he tweets gets amplified by the media and places like HN. He needs activity to maintain relwvance and revenue. He's also become a diety of sorts for conservatives and IMHO likely trying to pull them back in after they left Twitter for other sites, or even for good.
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> If something might be harmful to my kids, I would ignore what I said earlier and protect my kids first. That's fine but he should at least admit he has been a hypocrite and stop attacking Twitters moderation policies.
Oh I see. You want him to admit out loud. In your world, people are not allowed to update their opinion quietly? I bet even you don't follow that rule.
He made a bunch of very recent, very public, and very direct commitments to that effect, and now he is backtracking on it.
It's absolutely something that he should reconcile with and address.
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Feel for the guy and his family. But 1. This has nothing to do with the location of his private jet. 2. You can't do whatever you want, even to protect your family. Elon has a lot of power, he can't be allowed to abuse it because some guy decided to stalk him.
Twitter is his private property. He can ban whomever he wants.