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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Yeah, the hypocrisy is what annoys me the most. Not only does it contradict his direct statement about not banning @elonjet, it contradicts his statements about twitter policy being decided by a committee, as well as his numerous other statements about allowing free speech in general. The policy itself I think makes some sense, although it's interpretation is ripe for abuse, just posting any random picture of someone…

Why does it annoy you? If something might be harmful to my kids, I would ignore what I said earlier and protect my kids first. I don't give a shit if I will be labeled as a hypocrite. My family and kids come first no matter what. Wouldn't you do the same? Would you be like oh damn my kid has to die because I can't be a hypocrite?

> If something might be harmful to my kids, I would ignore what I said earlier and protect my kids first.

That's fine but he should at least admit he has been a hypocrite and stop attacking Twitters moderation policies.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#642

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Yeah, the hypocrisy is what annoys me the most. Not only does it contradict his direct statement about not banning @elonjet, it contradicts his statements about twitter policy being decided by a committee, as well as his numerous other statements about allowing free speech in general. The policy itself I think makes some sense, although it's interpretation is ripe for abuse, just posting any random picture of someone…

Why does it annoy you? If something might be harmful to my kids, I would ignore what I said earlier and protect my kids first. I don't give a shit if I will be labeled as a hypocrite. My family and kids come first no matter what. Wouldn't you do the same? Would you be like oh damn my kid has to die because I can't be a hypocrite?

That's why absolutism is a laughable farce when it comes to "free speech"

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#643
I find it fascinating that people hate Elon Musk so much that they think he deserves being harassed. Everyone hates the mob that SWATs and doxxes streamers but fully supports the same when it's toward this guy. I feel like I'm in a very small minority for having no special feelings against him.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Musk has now included a tweet seemingly trying to dox the stalker, including their license plate. How can he immediately turn from "people shouldn't post publicly available information that can be abusable" to posting someone's abusable public information?

Don't know. If someone threatened my little kid I'd probably sh*t on moral doxxing reservations, too.

His children are only tools for him. He only cares about them as long as they provide him value.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Feel for the guy and his family. But 1. This has nothing to do with the location of his private jet. 2. You can't do whatever you want, even to protect your family. Elon has a lot of power, he can't be allowed to abuse it because some guy decided to stalk him.

Twitter is his private property. He can ban whomever he wants.

That's not what he said when he bought it lol

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#646
I love it here. The guy who is building the worlds most advanced intercontinental ballistic missile and military delivery system, should not be upset about his real time location being public.

Like what world are people living in here? It’s amazing elonjet has been public this long. This isn’t just about journalists or stalkers tracking him (and his family) it’s basically a national security issue.

Grow up. The us is in a proxy war with Russia and relations with China are worse by the day.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

> Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. It would appear, based on empirical evidence, that in practice everyone agrees with this point. That may count as mission success for those many people. Was free speech absolutism ever something Musk put on the table? The issue that Musk is addressing is Twitter's systemic suppression of right-wing p…

Why yes, he did, eg:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519036983137509376

Musk repeatedly said that his aim is to allow anything that's legal. He even promised not to ban this specific account:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_au...

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Remember that Elon is powered by attention so you have to be critical of everything he says. Who knows if there was actually a stalker? Was Elon really targeted or was it just random? Could have been some homeless guy trying to clean the windows. The elonjet thing has been an annoyance to Elon for a long time, now that he owns the company he can force the guy onto another platform - and fuel the attention engine in t…

> Elon is powered by attention

Is it renewable?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#649
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Come on. That is such a bad faith argument to read on HN. There is a difference between open data and someone publicizing it. I know you hate musk but let’s not write reddit-level comment please. If it had been a personality you liked you would have written a totally different comment.

Then why isn't OpenSky (where elonjet gets data from) and sites like Flightradar24 being sued by Elon then? They publish/provide the exact same info. The only bad faith argument here is claiming publishing publicly available information is somehow endangerment.

Let me argue from the other end. The incident happened, which is obv not good.

What where the causes? How can we prevent this from happening again? What do other high profile perons do to prevent this from happening?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#650

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Elon's victimhood. So fragile.
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