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Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by anigbrowl »

ProAm wrote: post #124
hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

They didn't crawl onto the hood of lil X's plane. Big difference.

I find it odd that his son would be traveling in a car with no dashcam and the only video from the whole incident is some guy sitting in the driver's seat of another car looking very relaxed. Also that there's no mention so far of any police involvement, as I'm fairly sure the LAPD would take a violent incident report by professional bodyguards as something worth looking into.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by cma »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #570

Remember that Elon is powered by attention so you have to be critical of everything he says. Who knows if there was actually a stalker? Was Elon really targeted or was it just random? Could have been some homeless guy trying to clean the windows. The elonjet thing has been an annoyance to Elon for a long time, now that he owns the company he can force the guy onto another platform - and fuel the attention engine in t…

It is also possible he needed a story to take attention off of his stock sales.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by CaptainZapp »

MrJohz wrote: post #514
ShredKazoo wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon said: >Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info. From https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603181423787380737 You can see Twitter's full policy here: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-info... A hypothetical account that broadcasted the location of marginali…

The difference is that the information we're talking about here is already completely public information, repackaged in a different format. It would be more like an account that tweets the nearest homeless shelter to you - open information, packaged differently. Where it might become more problematic would be if the account included inciting language with the information ("here is a homeless shelter, go and mob it";…

> In all fairness, I have some sympathy towards Musk, as it sounds like he's dealing with the shock of his child being stalked

If this is true at all. What other evidence is there besides his word? Which, in my book, is not very trustworthy.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by 1MachineElf »

Natsu wrote: post #438
asdajksah2123 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

Elon is claiming this is the new standard going forward: "[Elon] added that any account revealing people's real-time locations will be suspended "as it is a physical safety violation"."

I wonder how he'll react when he learns about smartphone "Location Services"

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by anigbrowl »

KyleJune wrote: post #64
jacquesm wrote: post #60

No they didn't. Or if they did they banned it again after their new figleaf rules were enacted. You can't make this up, what a mess.

They banned it again about 8 minutes ago. I was scrolling through the linked thread when it got suspended and the tweets disappeared.

  while not sufficient_hype:
    controversial_account.suspension = random.randint(0,1)
    ???
    profit()

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by aorloff »

LouisSayers wrote: post #106
meepmorp wrote: post #19

He is completely making this up as he goes along. Edit: he's still completely asking this up as he goes along

In certain circles they'd call "making it up as they go" iterating on a product...

They used to have a product, which was advertising. That's pretty much dead now.

They might have a product in subscriptions, depending on how many people sign up.

But the debt is going to tank the company in 16 months unless the subscription business really defies gravity.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by Meekro »

kennywinker wrote: post #559
Meekro wrote: post #540

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Don't publish someone's location in realtime (24 hour delay is required)" seems like a simple rule that can be enforced even-handedly against both sides. On the other hand, "don't do speech that causes harm" is so vague that it guarantees endless battles. If the New York Times writes an article criticizing someone, and then a crazy person shoots that someone, is the NYT now required to stop writing articles criticiz…

This is a weak comparison. There are some pretty big qualitative differences between a critical NYT article and LibsOfTikTok. And… frankly if the NYT was routinely publishing content that was getting people harassed and threatened? Yeah we should be asking them to change something in their content too. Humans can tell the difference between news that sometimes has negative side effects, and singling out people for ha…

Humans can't tell that difference, except in the sense of "it's good when my side does it to you, and bad when it's the other way around."

Elon Musk aggressively criticized Yoel Roth, forcing him to flee his home in fear for his life.

Washington Post writer Taylor Lorenz published the full name and address of the (previously anonymous) LibsOfTikTok writer Chaya Raichik, forcing Chaya to flee her home in fear for her life[1].

Most people think that one of these two events is okay, and the other one is very bad.

[1] https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1516279523049889797

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by anigbrowl »

colordrops wrote: post #82
meepmorp wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what happened - I clicked earlier, and then again just now. It was unbanned then rebanned pretty quickly. This is amazing.

They did this so they could say they banned it due to their new rule against location sharing, rather than Elon's personal vendetta.

Or the remaining Twitter staff are tripping over each other trying to interpret the master's wishes.
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