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ElonJet Is Now Suspended
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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended
#922Earlier quoted context omitted.
> because they completely disregarded preexisting company policy for dealing with political figures That was the company policy. Public figures were largely exempt from the rules except when their tweet was egregious. Not sure why you think this is some conspiracy when it was blatantly obvious.
> Public figures were largely exempt from the rules except when their tweet was egregious. So are you saying that the two tweets I posted above aren't egregious? > Not sure why you think this is some conspiracy when it was blatantly obvious. I can't find that allegation anywhere in my comment. What was there was the obvious inconsistency between not banning e.g. the Ayatollah for the above comment, but banning the fo…
They gave people multiple chances. When you encourage violence, spread medical advice where it's against actual medical advice, when it hurts people and you are no doctor either, when you send people out to attack others, encourage deadly violence, then after a few chances it seems reasonable to ban them. I wonder if musk will release what must have been a huge amount of worrying about much anger this would cause right wingers. This supposed scandalous impact of these selected disclosures won't have much impact because it's not that surprising that there was a limit. Also it's a private company, they can make any decisions about letting people use their system that they want to. Do you think Fox News has been tortured about how much of trumps shenanigans they should put on the front page of their website? They clearly reduce coverage of trump's foolishness, support for racists, etc. It's not a crime to do this, they are a free private company.
Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended
#923Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doxxing someone's location != "free speech" by most people's definitions.
When you are using the public airspace, airwaves, or waterways there is an obligation to identify yourself to others.
When you use public roads, why shouldn't I be able to track everywhere you go and tell the world exactly where you are?
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#924Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk has stated several times he wants "free speech" and when pushed further, mostly talks about "speech that is not at odds with the law". So yes, that is pretty inconsistent with banning an account which did nothing illegal. Assuming it was Musk who issued it. >from a non-leftwing source Can you people stop going "left wing right wing" for one day and see things for what they are instead of this infantile black-whi…
Who is "you people"? And how is it not relevant when it is the verbatim-repeated left-wing talking point to say that the Twitter files are a "nothing burger"?
You know you are losing an argument when you call the literal facts (tweets) saying you wouldn't do something that you did a nothing burger. Musk can do whatever he wants, and we can all make fun of him for being so obviously self serving and foolish.
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#925Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm reminded of Bryan Cantrill's famous "Do not anthropomorphize Larry Ellison" diatribe: https://youtu.be/-zRN7XLCRhc?t=2305
> Do not anthropomorphize Larry Ellison I'd go as far as saying "Do not anthropomorphize anybody whose name you know from media" Do not treat them as people, treat them as ideas or maybe Sport Franchises. Taylor Swift or Donald Trump or Elon Musk are like say the Cincinnati Reds. If you are in a bar in Cincinnati and you want to drink without paying your best bet is singing the praise of the Reds, likewise if you are…
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#926Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it’s worth digging into that LibsOfTikTok issue, because even the limited information we’ve got is being misinterpreted. It is a real shame that Elon decided to do a selective release. The text shared was this: ===== Site Policy Recommendation Site Policy recommends placing @LibsOfTiktok ([LTT] 1.3M followers, not verified) in a 7-day timeout at the account level meaning, not for a specific Tweet] based on th…
A shame this is downvoted, since it's quite reasonable.
This is going to sound specious, but I honestly never stress about downvotes. It tends to even out to the overall tenor of the forum, whether that’s here or Reddit. If I’m always getting downvoted it’s a sign that I’m out of tune with the forum and I should think about whether or not I should hang around.
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#927Earlier quoted context omitted.
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44 billion was around 25% of his net worth. That's a lot of money, even for Musk. If his current actions cause Tesla to be viewed less favorably and sales to decline, it could cost him a lot more than that
I believe I saw something just this morning about Tesla's market cap falling quite a bit since the Twitter purchase...
Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended
#928Earlier quoted context omitted.
He trashes people who trash talk his cars. Even if you happened to die while testing his auto pilot feature. Yeah. He will trash talk you while you are rolling in your grave thinking Elon was god. And then god comes to show you how amazing your god was. He trashed talk a journalist immediately after the journalist complained he had to journey thru cold with out heater because his batteries would not last until the ne…
I think all of this is part of his appeal. He's more "scruffy" and unfiltered than most people with his prominence and responsibilities. But it's easy to confuse this lack of a filter for honesty, when the two may be entirely orthogonal. Elon's communication style is also good for forming "parasocial" relationships with his audience which explains how loyal and fervent many of his fans are.
> it's easy to confuse this lack of a filter for honesty
This is actually one of the bigger problems with discourse and politics today: the idea that "rude, crude, and unconcerned with other people's feelings" has anything to do with honesty—and, conversely, that being sensitive to those feelings and trying to take them into account when speaking is dishonest as opposed to kind.
Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended
#929Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456
Not that I think it should be banned (I don't think it should) I think it's also obvious that this jet tracker doesn't exactly aid in the public discourse, it seems far closer to targeted harassment.. Again, I don't think anything should be banned outside of direct threats (I'm a free speech absolutist). But it does seem clear, even from that tweet by Musk, that that twitter account seemed to impact his personal safe…
I'm not ... but...
So which is it?
Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended
#930He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…
You missed the followup where it was reversed 2 days later. "It appears @ElonJet is longer banned or hidden in anyway." https://twitter.com/JxckSweeney/status/1602354433807061070
Time is ordered so that things happen after other things.
So first @ElonJet appeared to be shadow-banned or visibility-filtered.
Then @JxckSweeney commented on that.
Then it appeared that @ElonJet was back to normal.
Then @JxckSweeney commented on that. *THIS* is what you linked to, from Dec 12, two days ago.
Then today, two days later, @ElonJet was suspended.
Then you posted your comment, apparently missing the passage of time from Dec 12 to Dec 14.
Then also today, @JxckSweeney was suspended.