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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by jimbob45 »

overgard wrote: post #595
electrondood wrote: post #470

I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…

So we have a company headquartered in SF, and I think something like 98% of twitter's political donations went to democrats, and the employees acted as constant activists whenever the executives didn't take action against high level conservatives (I'll leave aside whether that action was justified or not). Also, if you read the twitter files, the enforcement was fairly lopsided. Look what happened to @libsoftiktok --…

You're going to mislead a lot of non-Americans here with the bit about political donations. In America, you can donate to one party to benefit the other party by virtue of candidate selection during primary elections. Who one donates to does not necessarily match their preferred party.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by colordrops »

qlm wrote: post #616
overgard wrote: post #595

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So we have a company headquartered in SF, and I think something like 98% of twitter's political donations went to democrats, and the employees acted as constant activists whenever the executives didn't take action against high level conservatives (I'll leave aside whether that action was justified or not). Also, if you read the twitter files, the enforcement was fairly lopsided. Look what happened to @libsoftiktok --…

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> stochastic terrorism

This is an interesting term that is worth exploring. A problem with it is that it could apply to huge swaths of people and organizations, e.g. Fox News, the Republican Party, CNN, Democratic Socialists, etc

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by bobmaxup »

spritefs wrote: post #622
electrondood wrote: post #470

I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…

Yeah I agree that Elon is full of shit, but there's a little lie in here that needs to be addressed: > normal company operation in good faith But it wasn't "normal company operation" because they completely disregarded preexisting company policy for dealing with political figures. Here are political figures that they didn't ban (who were inciting violence) > 20. In June 2018, Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei tweeted, “#…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by dweekly »

madeofpalk wrote: post #607
bko wrote: post #597

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a reasonable policy would be you can't post the location of people against their will. Seems like a big security concern. Just because its publicly accessible by some means doesn't mean its okay to blast out. If you agree its fine, would you apply the same reasoning to [favorite politician]? How about a bot that crowdsources the whereabouts of [politician] at any time?

Is flightradar24.com a security concern? Note that the account wasn't about the location of a specific person, but rather the (public) location of a specific aircraft (own/used by a specific person). It's not like someone was tailing Elon and reporting their every location - planes must broadcast their location through use of ADS-B. It is public information. > If you agree its fine, would you apply the same reasoning…

Note that the FAA offers aircraft operators ways to make ADS-B information more private by vending a temporary ID for domestic flights.

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/privacy

Note also that FlightRadar24 and other ADS-B vendors are required by law to comply with FAA LADD, so airplane operators can request (demand, really) their information be scrubbed.

https://nbaa.org/aircraft-operations/security/privacy/limiti...

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by lame-robot-hoax »

BoardsOfCanada wrote: post #581

The account seems to be up and running when I click the link. If anything this shows how badly people want to find anything to criticize Musk for. Accounts get flagged, give it half a day at least.

The linked tweet isn’t the suspended account, @ElonJet is. And of this moment, it’s still suspended.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by dleslie »

bko wrote: post #639
madeofpalk wrote: post #607

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is flightradar24.com a security concern? Note that the account wasn't about the location of a specific person, but rather the (public) location of a specific aircraft (own/used by a specific person). It's not like someone was tailing Elon and reporting their every location - planes must broadcast their location through use of ADS-B. It is public information. > If you agree its fine, would you apply the same reasoning…

Do you own a home? Would you like a social network that allows someone that doesn't like you to post your home address to millions of followers? Are sites like acris a security concern?

You mean like this service?

https://landtransparency.ca/

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by maxbond »

cyberlurker wrote: post #530
maxbond wrote: post #380

I'm wondering if anyone has recently changed their mind about Elon Musk, in particular about whether he is a free speech advocate?

I have definitely changed my mind on Elon from an overly positive opinion of him to being disappointed in him. I thought his free speech push was a genuine attempt, even if a naive approach. But his immature, politics baiting tweets have really exposed who he is. I definitely remember defending his actions in the past and apparently I was wrong. He is an asshole. I still maintain that he isn't stupid though. I enjoye…

No shame in that. Thanks for sharing

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by jszymborski »

alarmingfox wrote: post #4

Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

When the Elon/Twitter transaction went through, there were a lot of HN comments stating that they thought that this might actually mean a more open, "freer" Twitter.

When I mentioned that Elon had already been using his power unilaterally to re-platform personal allies like Babylon Bee and Ye, I got all sorts of pedantry about the difference between suspension and banning, more pedantry about the Ye reactivation happening moments before the deal went through and some justifications about Babylon Bee not having done anything wrong, etc...

I will reiterate here again. Musk will squeeze every bit of perceived power he may have out of Twitter by issuing personal favours like the petty, tin-pot tyrant that he is.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by oasisbob »

bobleeswagger wrote: post #611
encoderer wrote: post #584

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re “flabbergasted”? This is publicly available information. What exactly is the safety threat with this twitter acct?

Publicly available information is... publicly available information. Singling out public information and publishing it to single out one person when there are safety and security implications is crossing the line distinctly into what we call doxxing. Just curious, how long have you been on the internet? Would you like an account like this to exist tracking everything you do?

A part of your analysis left out is that Elon is a public figure.

Is poparazzi photography doxxing?

Is the White House press corp doxxing?

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