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He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…

Well so much for that no leak pledge Elon made to the remaining twits.

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Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

So weird that someone targetted for (political) assasination wouldn't want a public tracker of his vehicles on his own platform. So anti free speech?

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You can't buy shares or shorts of a company that is privately owned. The best you could do is find a prediction market and bet against specific metrics.

The best you can do is find a correlated stock (Tesla) and short that instead. I think if Twitter goes bankrupt, you can expect Tesla to enter free-fall.

> I think if Twitter goes bankrupt, you can expect Tesla to enter free-fall.

I think a drop in Tesla share price would be likely, but I don't see why it would hit freefall?

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Didn’t Jack Dorsey invest a billion dollars of his Twitter shares in Elon Musk’s takeover?… Hard to imagine him going after him. But then again, Elon is hell-bent on alienating everyone. I was planning on selling our Land Rover and getting a Tesla but I changed my mind because a lot of people will associate me with the guy or think I agree with him. Still.. amazing cars.

> Still.. amazing cars. Are they really that nice? I've been in a few but never owned one. I hear a lot about fit and finish issues unbefitting a car of that price range. What does a Model S get you that an S-class doesn't, or a Model 3 against, I don't know, an Audi A4? Is it just all about that electric drivetrain? I don't yet have a strong preference on electric vs. ICE, but I would gladly pay more to have a car w…

>fit and finish issues

This depends a lot on your region. Fremont factory is well known for build/paint quality issues. Shanghai & Berlin cars are much better.

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I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it. I'm neither a lawyer nor an American but AFAIK according to past SCOTUS rulings, it is illegal fo…

>it is illegal for the government to "outsource censorship" to private parties in order to silence speech protected by 1A. A relative of DNC's Podesta or an FBI lawyer working for Twitter add to the impression more than the legal argument I guess. This is the entire story, but lede buried by MuskHate. Does no one out here realize this is the same hate-everything-acknowledge-nothing behavior regarding Trump? That you…

Wasn't the government at the time still the Trump government?

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It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus... It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

I don’t mean to be a antagonistic but as the owner of twitter why would we expect he not have the right and ability to ban anyone he likes? When it was publicly held there was some accountability to the shareholders as part of the public. Now he can literally carry a sink around wherever he wants

Elon’s criticism of the former twitter is that they went against published policies or enacted them against one group more than another.

Now twitter doesn’t really have policies, just Elon’s whims. And those can change at any time and without any external consensus. No one knows what the rules are.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…

I've never come across the term 'heavy VF' before - can somebody clue me in?

I think this is the first public occurrence of this term. Supposedly there are couples more that are independently named by users.

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VF = Visibility Filtering = "Shadow Banning"

Used to be another "conspiracy theory" yet again proven to be true.

The sloppy definitions allow all sorts of stupid conspiracy theories to be "proven true" when they clearly aren't. Twitter's always limited reach of accounts, that's been in their TOS for 4+ years:

https://help.twitter.com/en/safety-and-security/tweet-visibi...

The conspiracy theory that Twitter shadow banned accounts to a level in which even people looking for their Tweets couldn't find them, remains false. Everything that everyone Tweets is visible to everyone who looks at their Timeline. This is explicitly how Musk promised to run the service, "Freedom of speech, not reach" and is basically how Twitter has operated for years with the exception that old Twitter banned people who repeatedly violated the TOS.

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Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

I think Musk's behavior (and the behavior of a lot of public figures, really) makes more sense if you assume that he's not saying things to express ideas, but instead regards words as noises that you make with your mouth that cause other people to do or think things; if they stop having the intended effect, you have to change the noises. It's not hypocrisy, it's the natural outgrowth of seeing other people as a colle…

you hit in the nail in the head, Elon Musk probably lives in a world where only he exists as a person and everyone around are just NPC's. Or maybe he believe he is nietzsche's ubermensch and thus is above the morals which bind us normal folk.

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VF = visibility filtering

VF = visibility filter = shadow banning

Shadow Banning is alot more narrow than general VF. VF could be used for reasons like maximizing time in the app, encouraging high value activities, etc...
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