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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

FourHand451 wrote: post #24
Workaccount2 wrote: post #16

I think Elon is/was trying to bring back the "glory days" of the internet where free speech was the driving force behind tons of early internet projects. Seemingly everyone was onboard with the internet being humanities bastion of free speech and that had to be protected at all costs. Then the wild west internet was developed into a city and well, you just can't walk around shooting your gun wherever you want anymore…

How exactly is he working toward free speech being a driving force? From what I can tell, he's just banning different people.

>From what I can tell, he's just banning different people.

IDK, but let's say that's exactly what it is...

Look at how completely fine everyone was when it was the other group, and now are furious they feel like it could be them. Pretty astounding I think.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by typon »

m3kw9 wrote: post #439

Everyone here is pissed, but let’s see how it works out if there is an account tracking your own location.

Most people here aren't pissed about the content of the banned account, but the hypocrisy from a self-proclaimed free speech warrior. If he didn't claim to be one, this wouldn't be news or interesting whatsoever.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by dmode »

yosefk wrote: post #389
rrmm wrote: post #138

Surely, this will be addressed in the next installment of the "Twitter Files". /s

I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it. I'm neither a lawyer nor an American but AFAIK according to past SCOTUS rulings, it is illegal fo…

According to a heavily edited, and biased Twitter files release the only government entity that was censoring stuff was the Trump administration. But it’s unclear what they were censoring as Elon edited that part in his lame attempt to created a false narrative

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by jacquesm »

f38zf5vdt wrote: post #378
stefan_ wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She just got the role, why would she no longer work there? Presumably she was put there to enable this , after Yoel Roth abruptly left (and was subsequently defamed as a pedo by Elon, what's with the guy and pedophiles).

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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by chc »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #451
yosefk wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it. I'm neither a lawyer nor an American but AFAIK according to past SCOTUS rulings, it is illegal fo…

>it is illegal for the government to "outsource censorship" to private parties in order to silence speech protected by 1A. A relative of DNC's Podesta or an FBI lawyer working for Twitter add to the impression more than the legal argument I guess. This is the entire story, but lede buried by MuskHate. Does no one out here realize this is the same hate-everything-acknowledge-nothing behavior regarding Trump? That you…

You seem to both be mad about government interference in 2020 and mad about people criticizing the Trump Administration. But the government in 2020 was the Trump Administration, so it seems like only one or the other can be a valid complaint.

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Post by IntelMiner »

halfjoking wrote: post #433
lucideer wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have very heavy toll on his persona His supporters are fanatical - none of his previous abhorrent actions have had a heavy toll, so it's unclear why this one should. He is certainly receiving a large backlash to his recent actions, but I think that's more a case of people (outside of tech) who would've paid little attention to him before being forced to be more fully aware of his existence, than anyone who previous…

So let me list Musk’s abhorrent censorship actions: -Bans people impersonating him like Kathy Griffin -Bans people who share internal communications at Twitter -Bans people who post sensitive information like his address, phone number or private jet location -Bans a few militant Antifa groups Is there anything else? Because I’m not seeing the abhorrent part, especially compared to pre-Musk censorship. Why should I be…

That's an incredibly biased view of Musk's actions

>-Bans a few militant Antifa groups

And this just smells ideologically motivated on your part, frankly

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by nagyf »

mywittyname wrote: post #85
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #8

Looks like he's sprinting towards the endgame of bankruptcy: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twit...

I'm guessing bankruptcy has always been the plan, but I never really understood why his financial backers would knowingly light a pile of money on fire. For oppressive governments, it seems easier to monitor & block activity on one major social media platform, rather than quashing twitter and dealing with the dozens of platforms that rise from the ashes. Maybe it's a megalomaniac dictator thing, and I will never unde…

What if he (or his investors) just wanted all of Twitter's data? What happens to the company's data if it goes bankrupt?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by 40four »

It's amazing to me the mental gymnastics one must have to do to defend the @ElonJet account, simply because you might not like Elon on a personal level. Of course that account should be suspended. Yeah I know, public information/ free speech, blah blah. But it is quite frankly a personal attack on Musk, and I consider it a form of Doxxing. As high profile as Musk is, something like that account is a real threat to his personal safety in my opinion. I don't see how anyone would think that's ethical or reasonable to allow to continue?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by creato »

rootusrootus wrote: post #314
lucideer wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have very heavy toll on his persona His supporters are fanatical - none of his previous abhorrent actions have had a heavy toll, so it's unclear why this one should. He is certainly receiving a large backlash to his recent actions, but I think that's more a case of people (outside of tech) who would've paid little attention to him before being forced to be more fully aware of his existence, than anyone who previous…

There's a very real argument to be made now that remaining publicly in control of Tesla is bad for TSLA shareholders. The brand is going to suffer if he doesn't at least put a plausible puppet at the head of the company. Twitter is already a lost cause. He wanted to create a more popular Parler. Probably it'll just end up in the same place with the same niche user base. At least SpaceX has Gwynn.

The bigger issue for TSLA is that Musk owns a lot of its stock and might be forced to sell it. A puppet won’t fix that.
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