ElonJet Is Now Suspended • Hacker News Board

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by outside1234 » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:33 PM UTC

shmageggy wrote: post #254

outside1234 wrote: post #148

Just log off from Twitter. Every minute you don't spend on Twitter is another minute we will be closer to Elon having to eat $44B and probably take a horrific haircut on Tesla.

Delete your account. I did. I took stock of how much value it provided me, decided it was not much and declining, and not enough to offset supporting a billionaire megalomaniac large-scale boosting far right bullshit.

The only gotcha with this approach is that someone can take your handle and then impersonate you - but yes, otherwise, agree.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by mberning » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:33 PM UTC

Where are all the principled “it’s a private company” people now lol.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by the_duke » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #104

ancapsfascists wrote: post #77

Good to see I'm vindicated in the prediction that Musk has zero interest in free speech, he only has interest in his narrative being dominant on Twitter.

His narrative being petty things like "my pronouns are impeach/Fauci", since that's definitely something to spend $44B for.

I have believed from the start that Musk's main motivation for buying Twitter was giving a boon to the Republicans to buy favorable treatment for his companies, because he isn't getting that from the Democrats.

I'll probably work.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by xerxesaa » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

minusSeven wrote: post #426

Thinking of buying shorts on twitter now with all the dumb ass news going around...

Elon bought the company and took it public. Can't really buy traditional shorts on it anymore as it's a private company.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by nkozyra » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

yosefk wrote: post #389

rrmm wrote: post #138

Surely, this will be addressed in the next installment of the "Twitter Files". /s

I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it. I'm neither a lawyer nor an American but AFAIK according to past SCOTUS rulings, it is illegal fo…

A not-so-fine line between compulsion and requests. The government is allowed to reach out to and talk to Twitter.

Taibbi mentions two "suppression" interactions:

> Taibbi reported Twitter had "received and honored" deletion requests from both the Biden campaign and the Trump White House; he presented examples of the former but not of the latter.

(per Wiki)

Only one of those groups was actively in government and as expressed both were requests.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by gfodor » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

croes wrote: post #196

gfodor wrote: post #131

Dozing a person’s whereabouts isn’t free speech - yes I know you can fish this information out but it’s obvious this is intended to make it easy to figure out where he is. I’m amazed at the replies to this thread arguing this is a speech issue, especially considering the obvious need for heightened security due to what I’d imagine is a flood of death threats.

Using sites like www.flightradar24.com is not that hard, so there isn't a higher threat level by the twitter account. And it was Elon who stated free speech over everything.

Their def is a higher threat when the information about an individual’s jet is tweeted out continuously, each time subjecting it to risk of going viral. Distribution and risk are connected.

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Post by electrondood » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:35 PM UTC

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #413

"Private company, they can do whatever they want"

This position isn't the issue. It's pretending very publicly to care about one thing while consistently acting contrary to it. The "free speech" meme was always complete bullshit.

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Post by enumjorge » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:35 PM UTC

auditor_3d wrote: post #475

I won't lie, I'd ban the hell out of that account to if I was him.

Hopefully you wouldn’t market yourself as a free speech absolutist and make a big stink about censorship by the previous leadership, unlike Musk.

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Post by shkkmo » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:35 PM UTC

dt3ft wrote: post #476

docmars wrote: post #390

Doxing a private personal vehicle's location publicly is not free speech.

Isn’t the data publicly available anyway?

The data isn't publicly available from the government because the plane is on the LADD list https://laddlist.com/aircraft/N628ts

Thus the only public source is from the company ADSBExchange because it uses croudsourced data.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by Spivak » Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 4:35 PM UTC

orhmeh09 wrote: post #446

theturtletalks wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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One nitpick : $44 billion is not chump change.

It's not chump change for the not insanely rich, but the economics are massively different when we're talking about assets. All that happens is money moves from one asset to another; unless the buyer tanks the value of it their new assets nothing is really lost.