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Post by a_shovel »

halfjoking wrote: post #433
lucideer wrote: post #162

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> have very heavy toll on his persona His supporters are fanatical - none of his previous abhorrent actions have had a heavy toll, so it's unclear why this one should. He is certainly receiving a large backlash to his recent actions, but I think that's more a case of people (outside of tech) who would've paid little attention to him before being forced to be more fully aware of his existence, than anyone who previous…

So let me list Musk’s abhorrent censorship actions: -Bans people impersonating him like Kathy Griffin -Bans people who share internal communications at Twitter -Bans people who post sensitive information like his address, phone number or private jet location -Bans a few militant Antifa groups Is there anything else? Because I’m not seeing the abhorrent part, especially compared to pre-Musk censorship. Why should I be…

> sensitive information like his address, phone number or private jet location

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong...

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Post by nickthegreek »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #434
minimaxir wrote: post #272

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It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus... It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

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Elon said he wouldn't ban the account. It's banned. That's the story.

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Post by coldpie »

LimitedInfo wrote: post #394
coldpie wrote: post #294

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> serious question, does free speech extend to doxing Boy, what a complicated and serious question. We should form a committee to discuss exactly where our community places reasonable boundaries and adjudicate blurry edge cases. Who could have predicted that a policy like "if it's legal, it's allowed" would lead to problems? Surely no one with a few dozen billion dollars to set on fire would be that unbelievably stup…

ok point taken but I think this might be a case of removing general public access to all flight data, instead of some rule change on twitter.

So Elon should then take it up with the famously quick and efficient US Government, just like the rest of us who are harmed by speech that the USG has not declared illegal. If he suffers any harm in the meantime, then well, that's just the cost of Free Speech! Sorry, Elon! Hooray, Free Speech!

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Post by shkkmo »

minusSeven wrote: post #426

Thinking of buying shorts on twitter now with all the dumb ass news going around...

You can't buy shares or shorts of a company that is privately owned.

The best you could do is find a prediction market and bet against specific metrics.

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Post by jccalhoun »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #356
alarmingfox wrote: post #4

Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

I think Musk's behavior (and the behavior of a lot of public figures, really) makes more sense if you assume that he's not saying things to express ideas, but instead regards words as noises that you make with your mouth that cause other people to do or think things; if they stop having the intended effect, you have to change the noises. It's not hypocrisy, it's the natural outgrowth of seeing other people as a colle…

Or if you assume he is a psychopath who will say and do anything because he was born rich and has never had to face the consequences of his actions.

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Post by ClearAsIce »

beaned wrote: post #110

A lot of very weird vote brigading happening in this thread.

HackerNews is NOT turning into Reddit (saying such a thing breaks the site guidelines).

However I think it's OK to say that any topic about Elon Musk on HackerNews always descends into cringe / misinformation / le spaceship man bad / populism / repetitive memes; all fed by people who apparently source their news from /r/politics and r/whitepeopletwitter on Reddit and Business Insider bottom-tier clickbait media.

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Post by KerrAvon »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #451
yosefk wrote: post #389

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I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it. I'm neither a lawyer nor an American but AFAIK according to past SCOTUS rulings, it is illegal fo…

>it is illegal for the government to "outsource censorship" to private parties in order to silence speech protected by 1A. A relative of DNC's Podesta or an FBI lawyer working for Twitter add to the impression more than the legal argument I guess. This is the entire story, but lede buried by MuskHate. Does no one out here realize this is the same hate-everything-acknowledge-nothing behavior regarding Trump? That you…

You’ve bought into right wing propaganda, so of course it’s clear as day that it’s a government conspiracy and a first amendment violation to you.

To normals, “DNC Podesta FBI” are keywords signifying far-right conspiracy talk.

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