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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Flight information provided to the FAA is considered public information. This is funded with taxpayer money, and is not privy to privacy.

One could argue, none of the FAA data should be public information... I personally think that's the case. All the FAA really needs to know is where all the objects are, not specific planes.

ADSB-Exchange does NOT use FAA data.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #202

isn’t this basically like doxxing? aren’t the people criticizing this move the ones who would be in hysterics if someone did this to a journalist or politician they like? especially if it was a woman of color or whatever preferred group

The data is publicly available. See https://flightaware.com :) Edit: Here's all of the ORD to GRB flights https://flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=K ORD&destination=KGRB Here's all Cirrus SR-20s https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/SR20 (Single engine propeller plane, usually privately owned)

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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #348

Has Elon ever heard of the Streisand effect?

There's so many Twitter/Elon stories in the news cycle right now I'd be more worried he causes artificial little scandals to distract people from other scandals. Not sure what that strategy is called.

Judge baiting at this point.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #215

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No, this is publicly available information. Flight tracks are not private

It doesn't matter if its publicly available. To aggregate the data in such an easily accessible form is an invitation to crackpots. Few crackpots are going to seek out such information unless they are truly dedicated from the get-go.

So we are imagining someone is dedicated enough to go to jail for the rest of their lives for some assassination attempt but not quite dedicated enough to look up information themselves?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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You are either a free speech absolutist or you are not. The moment you start putting exceptions because you consider it "creepy", then your support of free speech is the same as what most of the population believes in: free speech with limits. It's interesting that you would put this at your limit because this is free and public data.

I do not agree. Just because I support free speech, doesn't mean I need to know your private medical conditions Just because I support free speech, doesn't mean we need all potential targets of political assassination to have their schedules always publicly available with arrival and departure times with 10 digit grid coordinates Just because I support free speech doesn't mean everyone should be able to track everyon…

Aren't you fully agreeing with how PP points out most people support free speech: free speech with limits?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #320

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I mean, he's openly been saying the level of death threats he's been receiving is exceedingly high. Seems like it could just be for security.

What about all of the death threats that politicians and election workers in Georgia received because of Trump pushing election lies on platforms like Twitter? Georgia's Secretary of State and his family received death threats. https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/11/politics/georgia-raffensperge... Some election workers had to leave their homes because of death threats https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-threats-…

1) Your comment is a red herring; it's not related to what I said

2) I'm simply providing an explanation which Elon Musk has openly been saying, the account was threatening his safety (I made no claim about fairness or anything else)

3) Trump was not doing real-time tracking of specific private individuals and publishing them online

I'm not claiming any banning is justified btw, but I'm providing an insight.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…

It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus... It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

I don’t mean to be a antagonistic but as the owner of twitter why would we expect he not have the right and ability to ban anyone he likes? When it was publicly held there was some accountability to the shareholders as part of the public. Now he can literally carry a sink around wherever he wants

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are either a free speech absolutist or you are not. The moment you start putting exceptions because you consider it "creepy", then your support of free speech is the same as what most of the population believes in: free speech with limits. It's interesting that you would put this at your limit because this is free and public data.

I do not agree. Just because I support free speech, doesn't mean I need to know your private medical conditions Just because I support free speech, doesn't mean we need all potential targets of political assassination to have their schedules always publicly available with arrival and departure times with 10 digit grid coordinates Just because I support free speech doesn't mean everyone should be able to track everyon…

ADS-B data is public information. Anyone who wants to target Elon for whatever reason using this data does not need to go to Twitter to do it. Whereas.. private medical information is private.

Why on earth are y’all licking one of the richest people on Earths boots. The man is clearly using his power and money to stifle speech that that is critical of him. That’s not something that needs defending.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #138

Surely, this will be addressed in the next installment of the "Twitter Files". /s

I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it.

I'm neither a lawyer nor an American but AFAIK according to past SCOTUS rulings, it is illegal for the government to "outsource censorship" to private parties in order to silence speech protected by 1A. A relative of DNC's Podesta or an FBI lawyer working for Twitter add to the impression more than the legal argument I guess.

I think from the legal POV, an @ElonJet suspension backstory wouldn't be as interesting as the other installment of "The Twitter Files."

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