To me this signals that TikTok isn't sharing with the 3-letter agencies and they don't like it.
Let's turn that around: what kind of control do US three letter agencies have over Facebook etc, given how much they fear the Chinese having the same?
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That’s no different from any nation, though.
Which is probably why we'll slowly see the slow Balkanization of the internet. South Americans will go to South American properties. North Americans will go to North American Properties. Europeans will go to European properties. I even expect the Africans to see this Balkanization as a way to solve some of their problems with, at once, unemployment and security.
I think you underestimate the footprint and influence that Meta has in Africa.
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It's been happening lower than the federal level. :) There seem to be reasons for it with substance. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/alabama-utah-become-latest-...
It makes a lot of sense for one gov to not want their BYOD policies affected by foreign (read adversary) countries. Cool. It doesn't make sense to cut TikTok from US civilian devices because: Land of the free, free speech etc etc etc. The other guy you replied to is correct, CIA/NSA et all don't like they can't swing their ducks into Bytedance servers and doctorate the content without exposing intelligence agencies M…
Skipping all the baggage that's formed around the TikTok ban/no-ban, do you think nothing should be done about a powerful foreign country with ill-will having direct access to an incredible amount of US citizen data? Even if you don't think a ban is reasonable, the current state of affairs in this regard can't continue, or do you think otherwise?
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#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
we’re talking about the government not the Chinese people here but nice bad faith response
Maybe I'm misreading things ... let me try again based on your initial comment: > if you believe China is a dystopian state why would a Chinese tech product that isn't even allowed in it's international form within China not itself "dystopian" ^^ The classification here as "chinese" tech product is the first issue > imo the most dystopian thing about TikTok is the fact that China intentionally exports a highly addict…
The centralized bureau is called CCP.
TikTok's main power is creating associations. For example, CCP may dislike some US politician because he is a trouble for Huawei, so TikTok starts subtly pushing videos that associate that politician with bad stuff. In a few weeks 150 millions US citizens have a strong negative reaction to that politician. TikTok may do the same for targeted high-profile individuals, e.g. family members of congressmen or high rank CIA officers. That is an immense power.
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#345"national security concerns" and "what about children" have always been used by government to pass useless bills.
Instead of banning Tiktok, how about enforcing proper rules and regulations that every social media should follow? Why not make a proper privacy that every people in US deserves.
Many people are probably glad that they are banning Chinese tech, but at the end it is gonna be superseded by Instagram which supply more data to three letter organization. The probability that three letter organization abusing our data is more than Chinese government.
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It would be a tough sell. Think of the children works so much better. Yet you admitted, another kind of services would "presumably not be banned by this bill because it lacks those social media features. Maybe it would be banned by another law, ..." which is in agreement with comments saying that this bill is targeted at Tik Tok. The irony is that the pedagogic aspect is secondary if those comments are right, but bec…
Basically, I don't think these US legislators are (as of yet) serious about combating the privacy and national security concerns centered around foreign apps. They're mad about TikTok specifically, probably because their own children have been watching/producing cringe on TikTok specifically.
Well, that's what I said, isn't it?
On the surface it's about the kids. But congress is a social network with thought leaders and lobbyists, too. They ought to know the power those even bigger networks can have.
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#347Hope it passes. I want that malicious social engineering tool purged from civilization and anyone involved in the creation of it thrown in prison.
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SV failed to build social media products that appeal to Gen-Z so this is the "plan B". The only reason why TikTok is getting banned is because its popular. And the only reason why its popular is because US-based entrepreneurs seem to struggle building products that connect with users under the age of 30. The irony is there was a product, Vine, that filled this niche but it was ultimately killed by Facebook (who promo…
Vine was shut down before TikTok even launched.
TikTok was originally Musical.ly which predates the death of and competed with Vine.
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SV failed to build social media products that appeal to Gen-Z so this is the "plan B". The only reason why TikTok is getting banned is because its popular. And the only reason why its popular is because US-based entrepreneurs seem to struggle building products that connect with users under the age of 30. The irony is there was a product, Vine, that filled this niche but it was ultimately killed by Facebook (who promo…
Vine died (or was killed) before TikTok started. It was more outcompeted by Instagram and Snapchat iirc. https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/28/13456208/why-vine-died-t... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TikTok
This is incorrect. TikTok is actually a direct descendant of Musical.ly which Bytedance bought and rebranded, and was in competition with Vine.
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Which is probably why we'll slowly see the slow Balkanization of the internet. South Americans will go to South American properties. North Americans will go to North American Properties. Europeans will go to European properties. I even expect the Africans to see this Balkanization as a way to solve some of their problems with, at once, unemployment and security.
I think you underestimate the footprint and influence that Meta has in Africa.
It's based mostly on WhatsApp and as such it is subject to change.