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Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?

Because China is not a good example to follow. It is a dystopian state with full control of what their citizens have access to. Why would you want to have your government to choose the apps for you?

It’s not following, it’s tit-for-tat in game theory which can pressure your partner to behave better.

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post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?

They were mostly banned because they refused to follow Chinese law, what US law has TikTok refused to follow?

Apple for instance follows Chinese law, and does a lot of business there.

America loves to talk about the "rule of law", but will just ban anything that competes with it's MIC controlled platforms.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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post #171

Technical and security issues aside, I wonder how the users are going to take it. My generation (1992) didn’t have a major cultural phenomenon being attacked in this way, though there was still the moral panic around things like social media and research chems. The closest comparison I can draw is the crackdown on raves which affected western Gen X youth, but TikTok is more pervasive and more heterogeneous as a form…

In the 90s, we had Tipper Gore trying to ban explicit song lyrics.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

Data storage regulations are boring poindexter. We need lines like, “TikTok is digital fentanyl.”

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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post #68

I don’t remember exactly when Congress seemed to figure out they could spell things by making backronyms of bill names, but boy I wish they’d stop. How about “Anti-TikTok Act of 2022”.

I kind of love how creative they get with it. It's just a fun thing they get to do.

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"TikTok is digital fentanyl that’s addicting Americans, collecting troves of their data, and censoring their news." Is the conclusion that all forms of digital fentanyl should be banned or just Chinese ones? Because the reality is there's nothing too exceptional about TikTok's underlying algorithms. Will lawmakers be willing enact legislation against companies marketing similar "digital fentanyl" but that are America…

US law seems to have a Homer Simpson approach to protecting its citizens. "Nobody ruins my family vacation but me, and maybe the boy!"

That’s no different from any nation, though.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As far as content goes, it’s pretty wholesome Content really depends on the user. It's a very tailored experience.

100%. If you are a wholesome person, it will be wholesome. If you are hateful, there's so much hate on tiktok.

Some content may be wholesome, but the dopamine-stimulating AI algorithms that abuse human psychology are never wholesome. And we should never justify the dopamine abuse with "people have the power to choose" because that never worked out with cigs, opioids, crack, gambling, or any other addictive activity or substance.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

SV failed to build social media products that appeal to Gen-Z so this is the "plan B". The only reason why TikTok is getting banned is because its popular. And the only reason why its popular is because US-based entrepreneurs seem to struggle building products that connect with users under the age of 30. The irony is there was a product, Vine, that filled this niche but it was ultimately killed by Facebook (who promo…

> Vine [...] filled this niche but it was ultimately killed by Facebook (who promoted Tiktok because they didn't want Vine making inroads with their users) and Twitter (by not developing it further).

Agreed on the twitter part, but the FB part feels like a pure conspiracy at best, and is just factually provable to be false. For one, Vine was killed off in September 2017, which is the same month that TikTok became available internationally.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

Internet is already partitioned, especially when it come to China (Great firewall). You say to do like EU but it made things worse; For example, this is what i get when i try to browse yahoo.co.jp: https://abload.de/img/screenshot2022-12-13aa4exy.png NY Daily news: https://abload.de/img/nydailynews-wearecurrlwd3x.png

Not serving a country because you can’t be bothered to comply with their data laws is completely different from banning your people from accessing foreign media products simply because they are foreign of the wrong kind.
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