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US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
Because the US isn't China?
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Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
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#62Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
Tit-for-tat with an authoritarian regime is a bad idea on several dimensions.
A far better reason is that a nasty authoritarian regime is using Tiktok to gather intelligence in anticipation of doing nastier things. Just one example: one of the obvious things to do with Tiktok data would be to correlate it with the OPM hack[1]. Who knows what kind of insights into people's character you might find? I'm sure a trained handler who actually understands their capabilities can come up with far more interesting uses than that.
And note that in that context, stopping US citizens from foreign exploitation is a legitimate role for government.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management...
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#63Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
TikTok already stores its data in the US and gives the US authorities full access to it.
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#64Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
TikTok already stores its data in the US and gives the US authorities full access to it.
i think the bigger issue is things like this:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilybakerwhite/tiktok-...
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#65It’ll be fun in 10 years when you need the equivalent of calling cards to access foreign sites. In the end it’s hilarious how the American government thinks of its citizens as being so clueless to need such a paternalistic policy. I wonder how many tiktokers even care about the fact that the app is Chinese.
> American government thinks of its citizens as being so clueless to need such a paternalistic policy. uh... you really haven't met a lot of US citizens if you think they don't need paternalistic policy.
Oh I have. Plenty of Americans do things obviously bad for themselves. Should all of those things be illegal? Debatable
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
mrtksn/OP [1] is arguing that you shouldn't just do a tit-for-tat ban on China. You should figure out what part of what the Chinese apps are doing that you don't like and ban that behavior. Otherwise this year its Tik-Tok from China and next year it's Click-Clock from UAE. Instead ban a behavior and you don't have to play whack-a-mole with countries/apps. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33971695
From what I read they basically want a blanked ban on social media apps from China, Russia etc.
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No, it doesn't. Truth Social isn't a social media company.
> (3) SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANY.—The term ‘‘social media company’’— (iii) has more than 1,000,000 monthly active users for a majority of months during the preceding 12 months;
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#68I don’t remember exactly when Congress seemed to figure out they could spell things by making backronyms of bill names, but boy I wish they’d stop.
How about “Anti-TikTok Act of 2022”.
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#69Might be worth looking at non-senator-specific press releases on the topic since this one is focused on Rubio.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/13/lawmakers-unveil-bipartisan-...
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What shade of Pantone gray is the US government curating the AppStore?
The shade that comes with shiny black boots happily goosestepping down Constitution Avenue NW.
What does that even mean? You think tiktok will lead to Chinese invasion? What a complete hyperbole, might as well restrict every civil liberty then since they will obviously all help our future Chinese invaders! Maybe I didn't understand your comment though.