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Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

Because this is a matter of national security, that's why.

Yes, we can treat foreign companies differently than local companies, on the issue of data privacy, because of these national security concerns.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#203
post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

SV failed to build social media products that appeal to Gen-Z so this is the "plan B". The only reason why TikTok is getting banned is because its popular. And the only reason why its popular is because US-based entrepreneurs seem to struggle building products that connect with users under the age of 30. The irony is there was a product, Vine, that filled this niche but it was ultimately killed by Facebook (who promo…

How did FB promote TikTok?

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#204
post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

SV failed to build social media products that appeal to Gen-Z so this is the "plan B". The only reason why TikTok is getting banned is because its popular. And the only reason why its popular is because US-based entrepreneurs seem to struggle building products that connect with users under the age of 30. The irony is there was a product, Vine, that filled this niche but it was ultimately killed by Facebook (who promo…

No, it’s because it’s from China which bans US tech platforms. If this came from the EU or SK there would be no discussion on this in Congress.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#205

"TikTok is digital fentanyl that’s addicting Americans, collecting troves of their data, and censoring their news." Is the conclusion that all forms of digital fentanyl should be banned or just Chinese ones? Because the reality is there's nothing too exceptional about TikTok's underlying algorithms. Will lawmakers be willing enact legislation against companies marketing similar "digital fentanyl" but that are America…

US law seems to have a Homer Simpson approach to protecting its citizens. "Nobody ruins my family vacation but me, and maybe the boy!"

And that's how we like it! USA USA USA!

/s?

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#206

I don’t understand the bi-partisan dislike of Tik Tok. As far as content goes, it’s pretty wholesome compared to what you see on movies and TV these days. It’s much better at giving kids age appropriate content than other sites. There is also a lot less commercialized stuff. Way better than cartoons that peddle toys and junk.

> As far as content goes, it’s pretty wholesome Content really depends on the user. It's a very tailored experience.

100%. If you are a wholesome person, it will be wholesome. If you are hateful, there's so much hate on tiktok.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#207
post #171

Technical and security issues aside, I wonder how the users are going to take it. My generation (1992) didn’t have a major cultural phenomenon being attacked in this way, though there was still the moral panic around things like social media and research chems. The closest comparison I can draw is the crackdown on raves which affected western Gen X youth, but TikTok is more pervasive and more heterogeneous as a form…

The "attack" is equivalent of trying to rescue opioid addicts from heroin. Or like you said, cracking down on raves (because we all know what really fuels and motivates those parties.

I hope more ethical companies take over the void. In fact, I see YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter in a position to fill the void since they've introduced "shorts" and some things similar to tik tok.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#208

I don’t understand the bi-partisan dislike of Tik Tok. As far as content goes, it’s pretty wholesome compared to what you see on movies and TV these days. It’s much better at giving kids age appropriate content than other sites. There is also a lot less commercialized stuff. Way better than cartoons that peddle toys and junk.

> I don’t understand the bi-partisan dislike of Tik Tok. It's not hard to understand, it's literally because it's controlled by China.

Exactly. They can use it to boost the opinions that they favor. The feedback loop of "I talked about opinion X and got tons of love" and "I talked about opinion Y and everyone got mad / ignored me" is very powerful, especially on young people.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#209

"TikTok is digital fentanyl that’s addicting Americans, ..." RIP freedom of speech.

That's taking it a bit too far. While there's definitely some truth to McLuhan's "The Medium is the Message", TikTok is a tool, not a statement. As an analogy, we can have free speech while enforcing noise ordinances prohibiting people from yelling through megaphones in residential areas.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

#210
post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

Internet is already partitioned, especially when it come to China (Great firewall). You say to do like EU but it made things worse; For example, this is what i get when i try to browse yahoo.co.jp:

https://abload.de/img/screenshot2022-12-13aa4exy.png

NY Daily news:

https://abload.de/img/nydailynews-wearecurrlwd3x.png

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