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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by timbit42 »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #180
yoyohello13 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pretty much live in WSL2 at work. While it makes Windows tolerable, it's not even close to as good as a full Linux desktop.

> it's not even close to as good as a full Linux desktop I use "a full linux desktop" at work (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS) and the desktop UI bugs and limitations are a nightmare. Give me Windows and WSL any day in comparison. At least there I know that basic stuff like clipboard and screen sharing/capture always works flawlessly, and windows don't magically get stuck to one aspect ratio and nost wasting my time trying to goog…

It amazes me how much mind share Ubuntu still has with people. A lot of the Linux community has left Ubuntu over the past 5 years, especially since the Snaps were added.

LinuxMint is a vastly better experience today because it's focused on being the best for desktop users, while Ubuntu isn't any more.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by RichardCA »

lewantmontreal wrote: post #49
JSRR1991 wrote: post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

Off topic but I really wish the regular old mouse and scroll wheel would work ”normally” straight out the box on fedora/ubuntu/etc. It’s really such a horrible experience coming from Windows when using the mouse is all icky not having ”proper” (Windows default) acceleration on and scroll wheel scrolling one line at a time. Like many people I really want to make the jump but still hang on to Windows via O&O Shutup 10.

This may or may not help, but this mouse has variable acceration (DPI) and I've been pretty happy with it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071J9JC6S

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by timbit42 »

pjmlp wrote: post #72

Windows is still my favourite OS, but I surely am not rushing to adopt Windows 11 beyond work requirements. It is just another Vista.

Most of Vista's problems was the nvidia driver. It would cause long freezes. Once that got fixed, it ran quite well.

"Vista was bad, 7 was good, 8 was bad, 10 was good, 11 is bad...". I don't expect the next version, or any after that, to be good again.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by bsder »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #283
tuxinator wrote: post #267

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When was the last time you tried Linux? I just replaced my entire computer (CPU, motherboard, GPU, etc) and my Debian (bookworm) installation booted with zero issues. No need to reinstall anything. I certainly remember fighting with xorg.conf settings, graphics drivers, and kernel modules in the past. I haven't had to deal with troubles like that in nearly 10 years though.

> When was the last time you tried Linux? Ugh. Like, literally every time someone talks about having problems with Linux this exact same sentence is said in response. I'm pretty much always trying Linux these days on various devices and I still constantly run into issues. Constantly . It's great that you have zero issues, but please consider that a lot of us aren't so fortunate.

> I'm pretty much always trying Linux these days on various devices and I still constantly run into issues. Constantly. It's great that you have zero issues, but please consider that a lot of us aren't so fortunate.

While I find this true on Linux, I find it more true on Windows and OS X nowadays.

The difference is that with Linux, there is probably a workaround. If I have an issue with Windows or OS X (nee macOS) and it's not affecting a million people, I'm simply screwed.

That's what drove me off of Windows and OS X.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by timbit42 »

the__alchemist wrote: post #107
Slighted wrote: post #90

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Microsoft transitioning Windows into a spyware platform filled with advertisements and garbage has been in the making for years at this point. Its absolutely exploitative, greedy, and evil, which is why if you can you should consider switching to a different operating system, like Linux. At the very least you can transition to using Linux for tasks that work on Linux while keeping around Windows for tasks which requi…

Linux is a usability mess, and has been for 20 years. I give a new shot once every other year. Basic flow: - Works out of the box for a basic desktop - Once you start installing drivers and software outside the package manager (Which you'll need to do immediately) and doing C+P CLI workarounds, the system state starts decaying, and things break. - The easiest way to fix things is usually a clean OS reinstall, in the…

A lot of your "problems" are because you've spent years buying "Windows" devices indiscriminately. If you had been buying things that were known to be compatible with Linux, you'd have no problems getting them to work.

You didn't state which distro or package manager you were dealing with but there is a LOT more third-party support for DEB packages than the others, so that may also be why you had problems.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by timbit42 »

humanistbot wrote: post #66
QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

> while long-term I and probably a million others are running for the exit, and doing our best to never use Windows, Azure, Outlook, Office etc again. So few companies out there seen to care about their long term reputation. Sadly, the number of people who will actually run for the exit is much, much smaller. People on HN are completely unrepresentative of the general population. I'm pretty sure MS has people who do…

> Sadly, the number of people who will actually run for the exit is much, much smaller.

Doesn't matter as long as the number is growing. As it grows, more people will tell others that they switched and it's better. It's slow to start but eventually it becomes unstoppable. I think Microsoft will keep the business desktop but they will lose the home desktop. When that happens, Eventually, games won't even be made for Windows anymore, like Macs today.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by jtxt »

garbanz0 wrote: post #255
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #186

I left Windows for Mint about 2 months ago and it's just so much better. All that stupid bullshit you have to deal with on windows just went away, I felt actual relief. No more ads, no more forced updates because you walked away from your computer, no processes that it forces you to run so that it can spy on your mics. It just works. If you want it to look like windows 7 you can, if you want it to look like an iPad y…

My experience leaving Windows was like yours... until I did a software upgrade or had to replace my graphics card, etc. Hours of fighting the command line, glitchy graphical bugs. For me, the desire to cultivate my linux computer like a garden ended up being a distraction from using my computer like the tool it is. Just my 2cents.

Not all distros are created equal. Not sure what the best is in this regard but Pop!_OS seems to handle video card drivers well. It has worked well for me.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by JohnFen »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #399
JohnFen wrote: post #45

It's truly amazing how Microsoft insists on making Windows worse with each release. It makes me miss the old odd/even releases where at least half of them weren't bad.

Perhaps they're making it worse for people on HN, but better for the average user?

That seems very doubtful. I know very few average users who think Windows is getting better, anyway.

But even if it's true, that doesn't make any difference to me. I'm still forced to use it myself.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by princevegeta89 »

acdha wrote: post #440
princevegeta89 wrote: post #172

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I used it briefly in the past 1 year.

With all due respect, that’s not enough time to be saying anything about it and especially not enough to be telling people not to install updates when that’s the most common way people have their computers breached. I don’t own a Windows device (and haven’t since Win98) and have had dislikes about it since the early 90s, but I’ve also supported it professionally and would never recommend someone avoid updates. Buy a…

I've used it for work reasons as well, I am not saying it sucks, it's just the troubles I had with updates. They seemed to do nothing in my case. I have always been on Linux desktop since 2015 and now on a Mac. I am not a fan of OSX, I just use mac for the awesome hardware it has.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by JohnFen »

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #417
throw903290 wrote: post #390

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I am similar, except one thing. I have separate hdd with offline windows 10 installation for gaming. It never gets internet access, never gets updated. Everything totally offline. I dont have a stomache to deal with Wine.

Are there games you want to play, that won't allow you to start the game if you don't have an active internet connection?

Don't know about him, but if a game requires an internet connection at any point, it's not a game I want to play.
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