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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by smoldesu »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #194
secondcoming wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use a Mac because they're overpriced. The new CPUs are interesting but the rest of it can go do one.

One thing to consider is resale value. When I tried reselling old Windows laptops like a Surface or XPS, the value dropped off a cliff from the MSRP. I would spend $2000 on a laptop and then it was selling for $700 used on ebay a year later. With MacBooks (and other Apple products) you can often recoup 70%-80% of your initial cost as long as it's in good condition.

If it's not a base-model. If you're one of the unlucky shmucks running an 8/256 M1 Macbook Pro, you'll be lucky to get $500 for it on the secondhand market.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by whateveracct »

Windows update frequently break my laptop. For instance, one time the speakers just stopped working. That eventually got fixed. And recently (and still broken) .local mDNS lookups I use to ssh into my Linux desktop to code no longer work.

I dread what my laptop will be like when I hear it whir awake when closed.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by howinteresting »

secondcoming wrote: post #56
sharikous wrote: post #52

Windows as a curated platform is a lost case at this point. They probably don't make enough money from it to justify investment. Their market is the enterprise world where they have a lock in, plus gamers and PC users who cannot afford a Mac. It shows. Not a problem for me. I have no issue using a bad OS if a company is paying me for using it, and at home I don't use Windows.

I don't use a Mac because they're overpriced. The new CPUs are interesting but the rest of it can go do one.

The Macs are somewhat overpriced (especially the upsells for more RAM and storage), but I'd still consider one once you can get rid of the horrible operating system that comes with it and Asahi Linux works fully (external monitor/Thunderbolt dock support is what I'm most interested in).

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Post by garbanz0 »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #186

I left Windows for Mint about 2 months ago and it's just so much better. All that stupid bullshit you have to deal with on windows just went away, I felt actual relief. No more ads, no more forced updates because you walked away from your computer, no processes that it forces you to run so that it can spy on your mics. It just works. If you want it to look like windows 7 you can, if you want it to look like an iPad y…

My experience leaving Windows was like yours... until I did a software upgrade or had to replace my graphics card, etc. Hours of fighting the command line, glitchy graphical bugs. For me, the desire to cultivate my linux computer like a garden ended up being a distraction from using my computer like the tool it is. Just my 2cents.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by Dwedit »

jacooper wrote: post #116
the__alchemist wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is a usability mess, and has been for 20 years. I give a new shot once every other year. Basic flow: - Works out of the box for a basic desktop - Once you start installing drivers and software outside the package manager (Which you'll need to do immediately) and doing C+P CLI workarounds, the system state starts decaying, and things break. - The easiest way to fix things is usually a clean OS reinstall, in the…

What drivers? You don't need to install any drivers if everything works.

The GPU drivers tend to be proprietary.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by PaulHoule »

binarycrusader wrote: post #218
CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

Hey, sorry that happened, it should have preserved all of the default applications, etc. There are multiple suites of tests and processes that exist to try to ensure updates preserve user data and preferences but clearly something went wrong here. I’m just a developer, not a spokesperson, but I want to ensure that this is investigated if possible. If you file a bug in feedback hub under the Windows Update category it…

It is a chronic problem with Windows that Microsoft tries to stuff products I don't want up my nose, up my fingernail and toenails, into my pores and into other unmentionable body orifices. This has gone back to at least Win 98.

OneDrive, OneNote and many other Microsoft products have, I think, been much less successful they could have been because Microsoft worked really hard to kill them. I'd like to see a culture change at Microsoft where they stop doing this -- it's what I'd expect from that mobile OS that has a trashcan for a logo, not from the market leading desktop OS.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by bsnnkv »

I maintain a tiling window manager for Windows[1]. It's the only thing still keeping me on Windows right now. I run NixOS on WSL, and I have a separate NixOS desktop partition that I iterate on from time to time.

Once I can make my tiling window manager X11-compatible, I think that will be it for me and Windows. The last update totally screwed me to the extent that I had to go into the registry and manually set my user profile path to get all my settings back, all because the update couldn't handle a symlink in the C:\Users dir, which I had to use because there is no sane way to do something as simple as changing the user directory name.

[1]: https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by smoldesu »

iansinnott wrote: post #83

I used to run a windows box occasionally for gaming, but have completely replaced it with PopOS. Proton is truly amazing tech IMO. My whole steam library runs as well as it did on windows. Posting this here for others that might not have known. I could have switched away from windows for gaming long ago but Steam oddly doesn't promote / enable Proton by default.

It's really miracle tech, I'm not sure if people really understand how good it is. I've got a library of ~300 Steam games, and less than 10 of them don't launch with Proton. I think I've had more problems on Windows...

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by wombatpm »

Maxburn wrote: post #223
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #186

I left Windows for Mint about 2 months ago and it's just so much better. All that stupid bullshit you have to deal with on windows just went away, I felt actual relief. No more ads, no more forced updates because you walked away from your computer, no processes that it forces you to run so that it can spy on your mics. It just works. If you want it to look like windows 7 you can, if you want it to look like an iPad y…

Me too my friend, I find mint a decent general desktop OS and I rarely touch windows for personal use. Still struggling with iTunes though.

Everyone struggles with iTunes. And every update makes it worse. I’ve used it on Mac and Windows and both suck
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