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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by layer8 »

butz wrote: post #59

What about using a custom shell on Windows 11? I remember using LiteStep, bbLean and geoShell on my old Windows 98 and XP. If they are no longer developed, this might be a niche market for Windows 11 users who are tired of constant "improvements". I bet some users would be very happy with "classic" Windows 7 shell too.

You can, for example using Shell Launcher: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/kios...

But people usually prefer replacing just the Start menu, or just making tweaks to how the regular task bar works.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

tuxinator wrote: post #267
garbanz0 wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience leaving Windows was like yours... until I did a software upgrade or had to replace my graphics card, etc. Hours of fighting the command line, glitchy graphical bugs. For me, the desire to cultivate my linux computer like a garden ended up being a distraction from using my computer like the tool it is. Just my 2cents.

When was the last time you tried Linux? I just replaced my entire computer (CPU, motherboard, GPU, etc) and my Debian (bookworm) installation booted with zero issues. No need to reinstall anything. I certainly remember fighting with xorg.conf settings, graphics drivers, and kernel modules in the past. I haven't had to deal with troubles like that in nearly 10 years though.

> When was the last time you tried Linux?

Ugh. Like, literally every time someone talks about having problems with Linux this exact same sentence is said in response.

I'm pretty much always trying Linux these days on various devices and I still constantly run into issues. Constantly. It's great that you have zero issues, but please consider that a lot of us aren't so fortunate.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by arglebargle123 »

actionfromafar wrote: post #161
CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

So, what's rehab for Windows users? :)

A Linux install USB?

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by rejectfinite »

abraxas wrote: post #12

Is there a version of Windows that lets you pay your way out of this bullshit? I may need a Windows machine for work next year and this shit is terrifying. I haven't touched Windows since around 2006 so I'm not familiar with their offerings. They used to have a consumer and a professional edition of Windows in the olden days with the latter being far less annoying.

If it is a Windows machine provided from a workplace with IT then it should be a Windows Enterprise image where this stuff is disabled with Group policy or Intune.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by layer8 »

maxbaines wrote: post #19

I say it every time I see similar posts, but these kind of features and being tied to an Ms account has made me leave windows for Linux and MacOS.

You can still use Windows 11 with just a local account, see for example https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-mi....

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by kyriakos »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

If I'm not mistaken browser doesn't reset unless you accept the prompt you get on first boot after the update to use default Edge settings.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

BirAdam wrote: post #8

This kind of crap is what made Windows 10 unusable for me. Everything was infuriating. I’m not a fanboy of anything either. Win2K was great. macOS 10.1-10.4 was wonderful. BeOS, RISCOS, IRIX, NeXT, and even DRDOS have warm places in my heart. These days, I use macOS because I find it the least annoying. It still has too many approval dialogs and notifications, but it isn’t quite as hostile as Windows. Linux and BSD a…

What are you doing with your machine that makes Windows 10 unusable? I've been on Windows 10 for years. I ran O&O ShutUp 10 a long time ago and haven't had any of the problems people are complaining about. I've had people complain about how they "shouldn't need to run Shutup 10" yeah ok valid point, but it's a weak one because I can make that point about anything on any other OS. It takes what - 10 seconds to run the application?

I'm an advanced power user. There are no pop-ups, no nagging to use Edge, no search feature hostility, no crashes, nothing. Not one day has gone by where I think "wow this OS sucks, why haven't they addressed this issue". I play PC games on it, browse, code, image editing, etc. all without a single hiccup. It's been completely stable and user-friendly. I'm genuinely curious what is it specifically that bothers people about this OS because it sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining and not anything authentic at this point.

I'm a software developer at a FAANG and I use a Windows machine. I listen to my Mac user colleagues complain every week: "my application crashed", "I need to reboot", "I'm forced to update see you in an hour", "I have to shut down so I can reset permissions for this app", etc. They roll their eyes when they notice I'm running Windows, but then endlessly complain about their mac systems. The cognitive dissonance is staggering.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by gman83 »

kyriakos wrote: post #287
CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

If I'm not mistaken browser doesn't reset unless you accept the prompt you get on first boot after the update to use default Edge settings.

I've definitely had Edge being set as the default browser following an update without any prompt to do so.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by bombcar »

ok123456 wrote: post #249
bombcar wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even the majority of “command line devs” are satisfied by Mac or even WSL for their machines. The servers they connect to are almost always Linux, however.

Apparently not, since every time Microsoft does something boneheaded that alienates their "command line devs" we hear about it on hackernews.

If they didn't keep using it we'd've only heard about the first time.
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