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I agree, this is fruit fly startup which will eventually fail. I can’t believe anyone could think this would be successful. It might do something interesting before it dies, though.
Warp got $23M from folks like the CEOs of Figma, Salesforce, and LinkedIn - they all expected this fruit fly to turn into a unicorn.
> At this time, Warp continues to require login. I don't want to stoke the flames again, but even VS Code doesn't force you to log-in. Microsoft knows that blocking you from using basic functionality of a free app is a bad user experience. It's good that you're letting people opt-in to a more private experience, but that was hardly the largest problem I could see the last time this was brought up. From where I'm stan…
Zach from Warp here. Thanks for the thoughtful feedback. Re: login, I get the concern and we are exploring product options that let folks preview warp without login. From a product perspective our goal is to make the terminal cloud-native and have a way of facilitating collaboration, and it's not really possible to build that without user identity. Specifically, login allows us to build cloud-oriented features that m…
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Warp got $23M from folks like the CEOs of Figma, Salesforce, and LinkedIn - they all expected this fruit fly to turn into a unicorn.
If I bet $1 for a 1:10 chance to win $15, do I expect to win $15?
A $20M Series A requires those investors to believe the startup can get to $1B for the math to work out for a typical fund.
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Zach from Warp here. Thanks for the thoughtful feedback. Re: login, I get the concern and we are exploring product options that let folks preview warp without login. From a product perspective our goal is to make the terminal cloud-native and have a way of facilitating collaboration, and it's not really possible to build that without user identity. Specifically, login allows us to build cloud-oriented features that m…
Thanks for responding, it's good that you're thinking about these problems. > I feel pretty strongly that the terminal ought to be cloud-native This seems like an oxymoron to me. A terminal is not cloud-native; it does network with the host machine, but a local shell is inherently local. If you've built the cloud part first, then you're building this product in reverse. You're welcome to explore whatever avenues plea…
Coincidentally, Warp is based on Alacritty
> At this time, Warp continues to require login. I don't want to stoke the flames again, but even VS Code doesn't force you to log-in. Microsoft knows that blocking you from using basic functionality of a free app is a bad user experience. It's good that you're letting people opt-in to a more private experience, but that was hardly the largest problem I could see the last time this was brought up. From where I'm stan…
Thank you for the very thoughtful comment. The required login I think is enough to scare me off. Which is a shame. It’s the first time I’ve heard of this terminal and the features listed intrigue me enough to want to explore more.
Warp team: I watched the demo and it looks great, and I downloaded it while going through this thread. I didn't install. I think you're boxing yourselves out.
> At this time, Warp continues to require login. I don't want to stoke the flames again, but even VS Code doesn't force you to log-in. Microsoft knows that blocking you from using basic functionality of a free app is a bad user experience. It's good that you're letting people opt-in to a more private experience, but that was hardly the largest problem I could see the last time this was brought up. From where I'm stan…
Zach from Warp here. Thanks for the thoughtful feedback. Re: login, I get the concern and we are exploring product options that let folks preview warp without login. From a product perspective our goal is to make the terminal cloud-native and have a way of facilitating collaboration, and it's not really possible to build that without user identity. Specifically, login allows us to build cloud-oriented features that m…
I vacillated for a long, long time before registering for an account. The distrust of cloud centralization, especially among developers who would otherwise be impressed by the “built in Rust” marketing, runs deep. Even if your intentions are totally beneficial right now, companies can change hands to people who aren’t aligned with user interest. Users who are developers are frequently in privileged positions at their workplaces, and being compromised at the level of their terminal could be catastrophic.
I’m the type of person who will take on many extra hours of configuration hell because I spurned Docker Desktop for its account requirement. So why did I end up signing up for a Warp account? Because yes, you are actually innovating in an area that desperately needs modernization. You recognize the risks and importance, at least in words, and in actions such as you have taken today. But because of the account requirement, I can’t let myself become locked in to Warp, so I’m not sure how deeply I’ll be able to explore it. And if a competitor arises that can innovate without any potential for lock in, I would jump ship without hesitation.
Thank you for your efforts and please, please, please take all the feedback here with utmost seriousness.
The first thing I noticed is that it is fast. Noticeably faster than iTerm, which I use daily. Printing a large file doesn't stutter at all. As a test I printed (cat) a large video file. Warp finished in half a second, where I had to kill iTerm because I got bored watching all the garbled text fly by. Now, I'm not often printing video files to my terminal, but boy is it annoying when I do something dumb like that on accident. Sometimes iTerm just stops responding.
Other than that, there's some great feature innovations, like keeping the prompt visible even when scrolling or treating every command as a block. The block idea is nice because I can pin (bookmark, I guess) the output, so I can easily refer to it later instead of constantly scrolling around to find it. Maybe other terminals do this, but I've never seen it.
Also, aside from turning off telemetry, I didn't have to do any configuration to get it in a usable state. With iTerm I spend at least 30 minutes poking around the hundreds (thousands?) of settings to set everything up.
Now, there are some features than need a bit of work, like the AI stuff is pretty basic. It can't really do complex commands, like anything involving pipes or xargs. Tab completion is a bit clunky, like it will try and cd me into a text file.
Anyway, it's clear to me now that I've become complacent with iTerm and there's still a lot of innovation on the table for terminals. I think a new generation of developers that care less about open source and privacy will like this. However, I'm mostly happy that there seems to be real innovation here. Maybe we'll see some of the best ideas make their way into other products?
Just bought all the components and I'm moving from macOS to a PC. What's the best terminal emulator for Windows these days?