It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

But there are plenty of gay men such as myself who embrace more masculine traits; it's just that a long history of a homophobic society suppressed exposure of the public to "normal" gay dudes.

It doesn't help either that straight script writers wrote stereotype fem gay characters for laffs. But then in modern times a large portion gay men working in the industry are the fem type and therefore those are the characters they write or play.

I said male. And that's the issue. If trans women were female there wouldn't be a discussion, but they're male and want to be treated as female. This requires women to trust males who say they're women.

Why won't you just acknowledge that this is a huge request and that it'll require you to explain yourself, ask not tell, etc.

> reduce men and women to sperm and eggs either.

You were trying to work intersex people into a defense of bathroom colonization by saying we can't tell who's who and thus categories don't matter. That's incorrect and rude. Intersex people aren't a third sex and don't deserve to be used as a prop in a trans-rights debate anyways.

> And that the "rapists" who are attempting to infiltrate female spaces are an extreme minority,

The number of men testing the boundaries of women's boundaries and spaces is huge and would only go up if they suspected they had a chance.

> and are a danger to all women - cis and trans.

Maybe from passing violence during an intrusion, but trans women are not the target of these rapists. Also, trans women have the benefits of male biology which makes them a much tougher target if they were threatened.

> without banishing genuine trans women

I asked what kind of test you'd have us perform on the males, to see which ones are genuine trans women and which weren't.

How do you propose people do this without compromising their safety, like when a large male wants to enter a female rape shelter at night?

> if you can't understand how trans women are victims in this too

Let's just stipulate to that for now.

How does that imply that women's spaces are what they need to be safe, especially given the problems I've mentioned for the women who are already there? Why not Jewish spaces? Why not new third spaces? Why not arm yourselves and use the original spaces? There are a lot of possibilities here before we agree to take someone else's human rights and give them away.

> and [banish] them all as men, we're finished.

As males. If you don't acknowledge that most trans women have functional penises then you are intentionally not engaging with the problem.

> There is no point discussing your desire to

You're asking for too much to be uninterested in people's concerns.

That sounds like a liberal feminist from ~20 years ago, trying to remove words that they think are used to oppress people. Like the people who invented Latinx.

Being gay has nothing to do with child abuse. You're gay-baiting, conflating transgenderism with homosexuality. This is one of the issues the LGB Alliance was founded to address.

> the insane amount of male-on-male sexual violence that occurs among children in the current system.

Yes, from men. That's my point. As a parent you need to know the sex of those who are interacting with your children.

> Again, then why do we let young boys change in the same room as grown men? Is the problem really just about biological sex?

We let them change with either parent because presumably their parent can keep them safe with active supervision. Generally though, other parents would recommend that young children use the womens' facility with another woman if neither parent is available.

> Wait until you find out how gay men feel!

Men are men, straight or gay. Women are smaller and not as strong.

> Sure, and what exactly is the reason behind why a vagina is the definition of who is a woman deserving of protection?

Having a vagina is not the definition of a female, but they do strongly correlate.

Everyone deserves protection but women's protection is largely achieved by providing sexually segregated spaces.

> There are plenty of weak men who empathize with women who are very at risk for physical and sexual violence.

Hopefully most males empathize with women but even if the risks were justification for a man to leave male spaces they aren't a justification to invade female spaces.

> IS the only solution to say who cares you were born with a penis?

Why is your solution to take away all women and children's safety to provide questionable safety to some males?

If you can't stop abusive men in the men's room how do you plan to stop them from following you into the women's washroom using the same legal exception written for you?

> Buddy, would you be willing to believe I have less than zero interest in women?

Would you believe that this isn't relevant? It's not "Women's spaces, and anyone else who swears they don't like vaj".

Women's spaces don't work if there are exceptions, they only work if they can be used to instantly exclude any male who tries to enter. You being there lessens the effectiveness of the system even if you are pure of heart.