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Re: Apple Music Sing

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> The at-home karaoke experience is pretty horrible As long as you have a 0 latency Mic setup then just that and YouTube searching Karaoke versions with AdBlocker works beautifully.

As an exercise for the reader: see if you can count the barriers-to-entry for the average person in this suggestion, and then contrast and compare to Apple's offering.

Speaking as someone who doesn't have an Apple Music subscription, I think I'll take my chances with YouTube.

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> The at-home karaoke experience is pretty horrible As long as you have a 0 latency Mic setup then just that and YouTube searching Karaoke versions with AdBlocker works beautifully.

As an exercise for the reader: see if you can count the barriers-to-entry for the average person in this suggestion, and then contrast and compare to Apple's offering.

Counting ad-blocking as a barrier to entry on HN is probably unfair.

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Apple products have longer lifespans than competitors'[0]. There's just a secondary market, which is more environmentally efficient. It's a very different world, so it's understandable that people not in the Apple ecosystem see "buy a new iPad" as synonymous with "throw old iPad in trash." But that's not what happens at all. The actual devices go on being used for a very long time. But ignoring that for a moment, are…

I wish that Apple would expand its recycling intake program. During the lockdown, I had several Apple products that I wanted to bring to the store for disposal, but Apple wasn't taking any devices at all. Then, once the restrictions were lifted, I found out that only one of the six Apple Stores in my area takes devices, and it was an hour away. It seems to me that every Apple retail location should take back devices.

Very much agreed. That seems like something easy to fix.

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It's hard for me to imagine they'd do something special to support "millions of songs" while excluding others, since the entire catalog is ~100m songs. My guess is that it's entirely dynamic. It's hard to imagine the complexity of doing batch processing to render each song in the library, and maintain that as new songs are uploaded, and update the renders for software improvements. Better to just do it realtime. And…

They do something special: get the necessary sign offs from legal. Apple‘s license for some content may bar it from being used that way (that’s another reason for doing it on device: could be different situation as far legal & licensing are concerned)

Sure, and a good point. I should have said they wouldn't do anything special on a song-by-song basis for millions of songs. It's not like someone's pushing the button for each song, or building a list of songs. Those that meet the criteria will be included, whether that is 10 or 10 million of them.

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The at-home karaoke experience is pretty horrible. Companies put a high price tag on access to limited catalogs with hit and miss quality. Oftentimes, the musical bed is low quality midi music and the lyrics may or may not be timed properly. I'm thrilled to see this announcement and will likely buy my first Apple TV because of it and switch my Pandora subscription to Apple Music.

> The at-home karaoke experience is pretty horrible As long as you have a 0 latency Mic setup then just that and YouTube searching Karaoke versions with AdBlocker works beautifully.

This is exactly what I did for the wife and kid. Works beautifully, unlimited catalog.

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I have owned nearly every generation of Apple TV. Other than the original model, I wouldn't describe any of them as slow as molasses. On the contrary, they are consistently the fastest streaming devices I've owned, and I'm comparing to things like Roku (built-in to a TCL), FireTV, and Android TV across a number of devices (Shield Pro, Hisense U6G, Zidoo Z9X). (Technically the Zidoo uses Android, not Android TV.) I cu…

Yeah, I switched from a Shield to the prior gen of Apple TV 4K in part because the Shield was often laggy as hell (also the UI layout was a mess, also the damn ads, also it was significantly buggier) and AFAIK that's about the most powerful non-Apple box on the market. ATV's way better on that front. Frankly a low-end-but-not-quite-bottom-end Roku machine feels snappier and more-reliable than the Shield did (though n…

Im a big shield fan, I don't feel like other boxes can touch its range of audio and video codecs. I did replace the default launcher with fLauncher so that I no longer had ads.

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Is this akin to karaoke? (The word never appears on the page.) > Apple today announced Apple Music Sing, an exciting new feature that allows users to sing along to their favorite songs with adjustable vocals1 and real-time lyrics. Users can already "sing along to their favorite songs" -- this feels like a wasted opportunity in the first sentence to explain the differentiator. It feels like they're misusing/misunderst…

I had a hard time understanding what they are offering as well and came here to find out. Is this for people in the same room? If so, maybe some vague reference to karaoke is merited. Is it for sharing with other people over the internet? edit: ultimately I could care less (but not by much) about using it; I am just curious about what they offer and how they compete.

Karaoke is the best activity I do with my parents in-law when I visit. They love it. It's kind of fun, actually. The equipment they have is old and they have special CDs with the songs and lyrics, really low quality. Apple Sing through AppleTV, with voice search, would be a huge improvement.

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To anyone wondering how this will work, since the post didn’t say: > The feature won’t see users switching over to music tracks that already have the vocals removed, however. Instead, it’s relying on an on-device machine learning algorithm that processes the music in real time, Apple says. The algorithm isolates the vocals from the rest of the song, allowing users to adjust their volume accordingly using a new slider…

If this becomes popular, Apple will ask artists to optionally submit instrumentals along with their tracks.

Re: Apple Music Sing

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People will definitely rip no-vocal versions out of there (if they are good quality, that is). I see some pretty neat implications: - Young artists can (illegally) use beats by popular producers. Young producers can listen to various tracks and better understand some techniques that were shadowed by vocals before. - More bootleg remixes of popular tracks. Things that weren't possible by just slicing and sampling the…

Your comment reminded me of ...And Justice For Jason, where people fixed the bass guitar volume of the Metallica album by taking the individual channels from Rock Band.

https://www.loudersound.com/news/metallica-and-justice-for-a...

Re: Apple Music Sing

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As an exercise for the reader: see if you can count the barriers-to-entry for the average person in this suggestion, and then contrast and compare to Apple's offering.

Counting ad-blocking as a barrier to entry on HN is probably unfair.

Absolutely, which is why I specified “average person”. I think most anyone on HN could figure it out. But that’s not what Apple is shooting for, I don’t think.

At the end of the day, I just didn’t want come right out and say “rsync, ftp, something something Dropbox”. :-)

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