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Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Are you worried Intel folks will drive over to their DC and smash their servers because "this is an Intel town"?

At no point did I say or imply anything to that end. I found it curious, as their other DCs offer servers with Intel and AMD processors, while in this new DC they specifically call out using AMD processors.

I didn't think you were, I was just joking, pardon me.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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While surprisingly banning a class of services that few others ban is a problem in itself, what's a bigger problem is that a) the ToS doesn't mention it b) it's enforced without warning. If these are not toy projects, outages can get expensive (due to networks imposing penalties on nodes that don't fulfill promises, or trading getting messed up).

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This is not reddit sir.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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The way they communicate is better too. Both companies increased their prices in the past year. DigitalOcean announced[0] theirs in an article that mainly focused on a new cheaper droplet supplemented by lots of useless text about how they “ adapt our offerings to meet the needs of our customers and their desire to create software that changes the world.” The link to the page with the new prices didn’t have some over…

I completely moved away from DO, because most IPs I got were in some blacklists. And some smaller providers completely blocked the IPs of those networks. So I had customers who weren’t able to visit my website hosted on DO. Their provider refused to unblock the IP range, because there were a lot of attacks coming from there. DO doesn’t seem to care a lot about reputation.

Not a customer of either but it's very interesting what you're saying in the context of all comments here complaining about not being allowed to open accounts on Hetzner. Maybe their extreme vetting requirements are actually paying off.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Managed k8s also requires stateful services like storage, database and ingress/LB which I recommended Hetzner to build like 8 years ago (community). Proof: https://forum.hetzner.com/index.php?thread/21421-docker-cont...

Hetzner S3 Storage would be great. I know Hetzner is slow moving when it comes to Software but it's so obvious that they would have explosive growth if they did that and most of it is available as FOSS Software already

They would also have explosive costs and expenses.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Lots of EU countries have their intelligence agencies doing close cooperation with five eyes (NSA and equivalent agencies of the smaller countries) and willing to turn a blind eye or actively collude in compromising security of IT infra in the EU. Or going further, a oft reported pattern is that when they want to spy on their own citizens but are forbidden by law, they ask the foreign allies to do the dirty work of s…

OK, be that as it may, in IT stuff, the question often becomes "Who is responsible?". If a state or its institutions violate the law, at least no one can blame you for GDPR violations, which you did not commit.

Exactly this, and I think this is granted with Hetzner.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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I hope they created an offspring company with no access to the Hetzner main infrastructure. It would be very inconvenient to lose the "hosted in Germany" - a.k.a. "not accessible data for the US" - aspect in terms of GDPR.

It is because of this, I had to move four of my customers away from Hetzner. Since they just did not want to be in the "sphere of US influence". Choices for EU only companies are getting smaller, and this is a real let-down.

This is becoming ridiculous. Sure, I may deploy to EU based provider, but then they will get bought or, like Hetzner, expand to USA, and now my business is at a legal risk all of a sudden.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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That's great to hear, happy Hetzner customer for many years. Now if they start offering dedicated servers in US locations with equally competitive pricing as for their Germany and Finland DCs then a lot of other players are going to feel the heat.

Thanks for the feedback about our dedicated root servers. It's great to know that we have fans there that would like to also see these products in the States. Installing the infrastructure for our own dedicated root servers in the USA means a much bigger investment in terms of making sure the DC/DC parks are up to our very high standards. For now at least, we are concentrating on gradually adding a few more cloud loc…

Your dedicated servers are by far the most interesting product to me. The US server market needs more price competition, and Hetzner's dedicated servers would bring a lot of competition here if they were priced similarly to how they are priced in Europe.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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It is because of this, I had to move four of my customers away from Hetzner. Since they just did not want to be in the "sphere of US influence". Choices for EU only companies are getting smaller, and this is a real let-down.

Some choices: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-pl...

Non of them deliver equivalence of big cloud providers.

Also, track record of at least some of them is not the best, if we are to believe, for example, comments on HN. I've made initial research about most of them. Just to give some examples about Scaleaway: prices moving up by 75% without notice (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25999148), zero notice of the removal of the ability to start ARM64 instances (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22923413).

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Please do a managed Kubernetes next. I couldn't convince any of our customers to switch to Hetzner because they'd need to do "everything themselves". A managed Kubernetes instance would instantly make Hetzner an alternative for at least 75% of our customers. And honestly it's quite a cheap way to earn a bonus on your server instances. Edit: And if you do manged Kubernetes and managed Kafka Instances the number would…

> Please do a managed Kubernetes next. If we're taking requests, I would love a Fargate-like service. It would be absolutely fantastic if Hetzner provided a service where users uploaded a Docker image, and Hetzner took care of handling the networking bits and running it, and gather metrics.

They could do it like GCP or Scaleway - provide a managed Kubernetes service, and provide managed Knative on top for the Container as a Service service.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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hi there, I am very sorry that we could not approve your account. We also do not publish a list of things that may or may not make your account accidentally appear fake. So I can't confirm whether or not it was the Protonmail or something else that may have triggered a review of your account. I am very sorry for the lack of transparency on this. I understand that it is frustrating and disappointing to be rejected as…

This level of account paranoia (which is infamous at this point; it's one of the primary things mentioned every time Hetzner comes up) is one of several reasons why Hetzner is doomed to be a second-rate provider. If you have a credit card, you can get an AWS account. I've never provided any kind of ID to any American hosting provider. They wait until after you've done something bad to ban you.

It's more expensive to provide AWS-type "assume you can be trusted" service at a low-cost provider - and Hetzner is one of the lowest-cost big providers.

Low-cost attracts more fraudulent customers, using stolen credit card numbers. Hosting is particularly bad for this compared with other low-cost services, because of the community of people who want to use rented servers for DDOS and such, ideally without paying or being tied to a real identity.

It also attracts people who will do a card chargeback if the server isn't what they wanted or after they've used it for some temporary event. Some people don't appreciate that chargebacks are expensive for the low-cost supplier, and some people don't care.

Low-cost also means the penalty cost of credit card chargebacks is a higher proportion of income, even if the number of them was the same. It might be so much higher that the business couldn't be profitable at the prices it offers if it didn't aggressively filter which customers it takes on.

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