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Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by Archelaos » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:20 PM UTC

mythz wrote: post #48

We're a long time Hetzner dedicated server customer currently transitioning from their dedicated servers in Germany to their US Cloud product (for reduced latency) which we can highly recommend as it was the best US Cloud provider we've found that works out to be an order of magnitude less expensive than equivalent specs on Azure/AWS and also includes 20TB free bandwidth that would cost a fortune in AWS/Azure's artif…

> Cloudflare R2 - another great value S3 alternative with $0 egress fees

I don't understand their price page. They claim $0 egress fees, but their free "Class A operations (mutate state)" and "Class B operations (read state)" have a mothly cap. After that you pay by the number. Isn't that an egress free?

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by hardwaresofton » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:22 PM UTC

PaywallBuster wrote: post #164

hardwaresofton wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something like this is on my roadmap, would you mind telling me a bit about the metrics and the scale you'd expect? Would you expect always on or more of an ephemeral container?

AWS Fargate / GCP Cloud run Upload a docker image, specify container size (1cpu 2gb) go live scale from 1rps to 1000 rps any time stateless pay per request or pay per container

Combining what the original comment was, they also want some AppRunner-style ergonomics -- I'd like to see just how much of cloudwatch/monitoring would be expected to be available. Basic things like CPU and memory aren't too hard but it really does depend on how much of the VM (firecracker/etc) one would expect to be able to see, as well as higher level metrics like (RPS/Errors, etc).

AppRunner, Fargate and Cloud Run have different ergonomics and specifics but thanks for this outline. v1 is likely to be pay per container but other than that feels doable.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by e1g » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:22 PM UTC

Hetzner_OL wrote: post #74

capableweb wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why have startup scripts when you can run your very own images? `Installimage` ( https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/operating-sy... ) allows you to install and run your own custom images, so run any bootstrapping once, create image from the results and then install that on the machines. If you really really need startup scripts, it'll be trivial to add it to your own image. Packer (and similar tooling) m…

Hetzner Cloud also has an extensive ISO library, and if there is something that is missing from that library that you would like to have -- including a specific custom image -- customers can write a support ticket on Cloud Console and our team can upload it for you. --Katie

I'd love for the available images to be regularly/automatically updated - e.g. Alma/Rocky Linux is available at v8.5, and v9 came out 5-6 months ago.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by openplatypus » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:23 PM UTC

rwaksmunski wrote: post #153

Since we have Hetzner employees reading this, please bring back FreeBSD image support. Operating system diversity is good for Internet's resilience.

OVH Public Cloud allows your images. It even supports private registry.

You do you.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by nigma1337 » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:24 PM UTC

Does anyone have any experience running kubernetes on hetzner? We're currently using DOKS, but are strongly considering setting something up on bare metal servers, as digital ocean are rather expensive (compared to hetzner that is)

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by seydor » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:25 PM UTC

I am embarrassed to report that my server has 760 days uptime. I wonder if they ll just forget that it exists and stop charging me

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by hobs » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:28 PM UTC

mythz wrote: post #48

We're a long time Hetzner dedicated server customer currently transitioning from their dedicated servers in Germany to their US Cloud product (for reduced latency) which we can highly recommend as it was the best US Cloud provider we've found that works out to be an order of magnitude less expensive than equivalent specs on Azure/AWS and also includes 20TB free bandwidth that would cost a fortune in AWS/Azure's artif…

First thing on signup: YOU HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL IDENTITY VALIDATION, yes, even though we took your home address and credit card and phone number already.

No thanks, I'll keep using Digital Ocean or someone who doesn't make me jump through hoops.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by newaccount74 » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:30 PM UTC

mccorrinall wrote: post #158

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #147

They have extremely impressive prices, but I've always been hesitant to use them for anything important because they've historically been known for very aggressively shutting down your service if their automated systems detect e.g. suspicious traffic. The most recent and egregious example would be banning users who run cryptocurrency-related nodes, even if not mining, despite only mining and similar activities being…

I would totally understand this on VPS and dedis where the crypto is mining ssd blocks (I think it’s name is Chia). But preventing me from running a normal bitcoin node on my server, which writes 400GB once and is done makes me left confused.

Providing services to the crypto community probably makes you a huge target for cyber attacks and all kinds of fraud. It's the reason I would never get into that business, so I kind of understand why a company would prefer not to allow anything crypto related on their platform.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by replwoacause » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:30 PM UTC

nakedrobot2 wrote: post #106

zac23or wrote: post #54

Seeing HN become "customer service" for many companies (including faang) is sad.

Why? Customer service is marketing.

Exactly. Because it seems transparent. It would just be better if the customer service given through the company's support channels were adequate. Not these veiled attempts to market via customer support.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Post by heipei » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 1:30 PM UTC

Archelaos wrote: post #171

mythz wrote: post #48

We're a long time Hetzner dedicated server customer currently transitioning from their dedicated servers in Germany to their US Cloud product (for reduced latency) which we can highly recommend as it was the best US Cloud provider we've found that works out to be an order of magnitude less expensive than equivalent specs on Azure/AWS and also includes 20TB free bandwidth that would cost a fortune in AWS/Azure's artif…

> Cloudflare R2 - another great value S3 alternative with $0 egress fees I don't understand their price page. They claim $0 egress fees, but their free "Class A operations (mutate state)" and "Class B operations (read state)" have a mothly cap. After that you pay by the number. Isn't that an egress free?

Not if you download a small number of large files ;)