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Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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I love Hetzner Cloud, it’s similar to Digital Ocean, but the performance is much better. Funnily it’s cheaper too.

There are just two things I’m missing:

- snapshots for volumes!!!

- restricting the dns api token (I don’t want to give one acme solver full access to 20+ domains)

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Please do a managed Kubernetes next. I couldn't convince any of our customers to switch to Hetzner because they'd need to do "everything themselves". A managed Kubernetes instance would instantly make Hetzner an alternative for at least 75% of our customers. And honestly it's quite a cheap way to earn a bonus on your server instances. Edit: And if you do manged Kubernetes and managed Kafka Instances the number would…

Managed k8s also requires stateful services like storage, database and ingress/LB which I recommended Hetzner to build like 8 years ago (community). Proof: https://forum.hetzner.com/index.php?thread/21421-docker-cont...

Hetzner S3 Storage would be great. I know Hetzner is slow moving when it comes to Software but it's so obvious that they would have explosive growth if they did that and most of it is available as FOSS Software already

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

#133

Very happy about this as a long-time Hetzner dedicated and cloud customer. The only "issue" I've had with cloud is the lack of video memory due to the virtualized environment they run in, but that's a special case because I'm running a custom Windows server install due to Adobe products, which is not officially supported. I await the day they add object storage to the mix, then my (hosting) life will be complete.

Object storage is, indeed, very high up on the list of hoped-for items on our customer wish list for cloud products. I can add a +1 to that for you and send it onto the dev team. As always, we don't announce roadmaps of upcoming features and when they will be ready. We prefer to announce things when they go live -- just like today! --Katie

And snapshotting for volumes!

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

#134

Hetzner customer for 20 (?) years. Wish they would add managed databases to their cloud.

Since everyone is all of a sudden voting for managed databases, maybe there is a reason why Hetzner is so cheap and the reason is that they focus on the core and not on satisfying all kinds of feature requests?

It's not "all kinds of feature requests", if you think about it.

IT is basically 2 things, at its core:

* compute

* storage

Hetzner offers cheap compute, which is great because modern applications can have stateless web/app servers.

Now, the missing part is storage, and that's much harder and riskier since it's state, inherently. A server dies, you lose stuff if you misconfigure it.

So people want a fully managed IT solution.

It's simple and it's obvious conceptually, just hard.

And I guess Hetzner won't do it because it's hard thus expensive to do.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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We're a long time Hetzner dedicated server customer currently transitioning from their dedicated servers in Germany to their US Cloud product (for reduced latency) which we can highly recommend as it was the best US Cloud provider we've found that works out to be an order of magnitude less expensive than equivalent specs on Azure/AWS and also includes 20TB free bandwidth that would cost a fortune in AWS/Azure's artif…

How are their APIs for Configuration as Code?

Pretty good.

https://registry.terraform.io/providers/hetznercloud/hcloud/...

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Object storage is, indeed, very high up on the list of hoped-for items on our customer wish list for cloud products. I can add a +1 to that for you and send it onto the dev team. As always, we don't announce roadmaps of upcoming features and when they will be ready. We prefer to announce things when they go live -- just like today! --Katie

I wouldn't hold your breath for this. I think Hetzner wants to stick to compute offerings, they don't have the manpower to run managed services like object storage or databases.

They could probably even outsource that service to some storage solution provider. They just need to have the servers located on site at Hetzner.

It wouldn’t even needed to be integrated to their API and billing.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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Kubeone on Hetzner is honestly one of the smoothest non-managed experiences I've ever had with Kubernetes - better than some managed ones. Includes all of the things Hetzner already provides for Kubernetes (so I'm sure they're working on their own) - internal networking support, load balancers, volumes. And you scale worker nodes with a CRD too. https://github.com/kubermatic/kubeone/tree/main/examples/ter...

That's wicked cool, thank you. For me and a little more experimental customers, this is a nice option but for the more legacy customers out there, if it doesn't have an SLA, it doesn't exist. I know it doesn't make sense but it's how big companies tend to work.

Oh, I've been there. I just wanted to highlight an outstanding option.

Though I'm sure if you ask and they have the money for it lying around, Kubermatic will sell you an SLA.

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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This is certainly interesting. I've been using DO for something like 8 years and I really like them. I don't plan to switch but Hetzner offers a CPU optimized server with 4 CPU cores and 8 GB of memory for $17 USD / month. DigitalOcean offers the same thing for $56 USD / month. It's hard to ignore how much of a difference that is. Even the smaller'ish instances have a huge difference. Hetzner has a 2 CPU core 4 GB of…

The price increase of Digital Ocean is what prompted us to evaluate different US Cloud providers in which we found Hetzner offering by far the best value [1], what's even nicer was that the prices for the instances ended up being ~25% cheaper than what they're advertising, e.g. their 4x vCPU / 8GB RAM / 160GB HDD is advertised at €17.27 but when creating instances of them in their cloud console it only ends up costing €13.10. Not sure why that is, perhaps it's the difference of their hourly vs monthly cost.

[1] https://servicestack.net/blog/finding-best-us-value-cloud-pr...

Re: Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location

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I hope they created an offspring company with no access to the Hetzner main infrastructure. It would be very inconvenient to lose the "hosted in Germany" - a.k.a. "not accessible data for the US" - aspect in terms of GDPR.

How can AWS claim they are GDPR compliant?

They can't really, since the Schrems II decision.
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